Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963

[Martin Weidmann]

Wisdom comes slow.  The evidence places Oswald in the SN at 12:30 and in the lunchroom when Baker enters.   I don't claim to know the movements of Oswald and other folks in the building down to the exact second because those individuals themselves did not have that level of knowledge.  However, you have tried to take witness testimony and graft it to an outcome that you desire.  And using that subjective analysis of the testimony to rebut the actual evidence left at the crime scene.  Nothing you have claimed precludes Oswald from being the assassin and being in the 2nd floor lunchroom.  You repeat the same speculative interpretation of the testimony as a fact.  The movements of these parties down to the level of time that you are suggesting (seconds) is unknowable from their recollection of events.

Pathetic. All I see you say, time after time, is that "evidence places Oswald in the SN at 12:30" (which is an outright lie as there is no such evidence) and "nothing precludes Oswald from being the assassin and being in the 2nd floor lunchroom" which is also a lie.

What I don't see you do, in fact what I never see you do, is support your silly "could have" claims with anything that actually shows that Oswald was the assassin, that he was in the SN at 12:30, and that he managed to go down the stairs in 75 seconds or less after the shots without being seen or heard by anybody.

The notion that the presence of a rifle (even if it was Oswald's, which is doubtful) and three shells somehow proves that Oswald was on the 6th floor at 12:30 is simply idiotic.

[Martin Weidmann]

I have no interest in catering to high school dropouts and Oswald worshippers.
But thanks so much for your always-useful input

Good, since I am neither you do have an interest in catering to me.

So, let's have a coherent thought for once.... Go on then...

[Martin Weidmann]

OAKers

> Nothing is Knowable
> Nothing is Provable
< Nothing is Believable

Not true... it is absolutely knowable and believable that you are a first class fruitcake who provides the evidence to justify that conclusion with every post he writes.

[Jerry Organ]

You're a funny man...

Garner told Barry Ernest

The transcripts are available. Right?

that the girls ran out of the office, through the back door, and she followed them seconds later. When she got to the stairs the girls were gone. What happened, Jerry? Did they just disappear in a puff of smoke?

If Garner is mere seconds behind the two girls and loses sight of them, then it seems they must have "disappeared" while crossing the large open space. More likely the two girls turned right and went to the public elevator, just like Styles said they did. Garner is looking towards the west windows and supposedly ends up near the stairway.

While Adams and Styles press buttons, talk about what happened and wait for the elevator, Garner hears the first round of Baker's footsteps in the stairwell, thinking the noise is that of the girls going down. The noise stops, then resumes, getting louder until Garner sees Truly and Baker pass. Garner then goes to the supply room or her office, and is unaware when Adams and Styles cross the open space to begin their descend.

Meanwhile Adams and Styles are over at the passenger elevator; they cross the fourth floor while Garner is busy looking out the windows or has gone back to her office.

Nice bit of speculation. Too bad it doesn't work and it contradicts what Garner actually said. Styles was photographed in front of the main entrance of the TSBD at around 12:36 and went back into the building just before it was locked down. This could never have happened if the girls had left the 4th floor later than Adams said all along. So, how do you explain that? Can't wait to read your response...

I don't see where it's taking more than a few minutes to walk from the back of the building to the front.

[Martin Weidmann]

The transcripts are available. Right?



If Garner is mere seconds behind the two girls and loses sight of them, then it seems they must have "disappeared" while crossing the large open space. More likely the two girls turned right and went to the public elevator, just like Styles said they did. Garner is looking towards the west windows and supposedly ends up near the stairway.

While Adams and Styles press buttons, talk about what happened and wait for the elevator, Garner hears the first round of Baker's footsteps in the stairwell, thinking the noise is that of the girls going down. The noise stops, then resumes, getting louder until Garner sees Truly and Baker pass. Garner then goes to the supply room or her office, and is unaware when Adams and Styles cross the open space to begin their descend.

I don't see where it's taking more than a few minutes to walk from the back of the building to the front.

The transcripts are available. Right?

Ask Barry Ernest? Or are you claiming he is lying?

If Garner is mere seconds behind the two girls and loses sight of them, then it seems they must have "disappeared" while crossing the large open space.

Or the girls simply got onto the stairs in those few seconds. The diagram clearly shows the back door of the office is roughly halfway the floor. Crossing the large open space would only have taken them a few seconds.

More likely the two girls turned right and went to the public elevator, just like Styles said they did. Garner is looking towards the west windows and supposedly ends up near the stairway.

First of all, where did Styles say that? The transcript is available. Right?
Secondly, Garner said she followed the girls. Seems a silly thing to say if the girls went through the side door and Garner went through the back door. Besides, if the girls had first gone to the elevator and then to the stairs, Garner would have seen them crossing the room.

While Adams and Styles press buttons, talk about what happened and wait for the elevator, Garner hears the first round of Baker's footsteps in the stairwell, thinking the noise is that of the girls going down. The noise stops, then resumes, getting louder until Garner sees Truly and Baker pass. Garner then goes to the supply room or her office, and is unaware when Adams and Styles cross the open space to begin their descend.

Nice theory except for the fact that it is physically impossible.

I don't see where it's taking more than a few minutes to walk from the back of the building to the front.

It doesn't. My guess is 3 minutes would do. The problem is that there is undisputable proof that Styles was in front of the main entrance of the TSBD on Elm Street at around 12:36 because she was photographed being there at that time. So, if you allow 3 minutes for walking [the long way around passing the annex building next to the railroad yard] from the back to the front of the building and another minute or so to get down the stairs and leave the building, you would have them coming down the stairs roughly two minutes after the shots, which means they would have run into Truly and Baker on the stairs. Your math simply doesn't work.

And btw, DPD radio transcripts have Sgt. D.V. Harkness telling the dispatcher that they are sealing of the building. This was at 12:36. Styles went back into the building before it was sealed of completely. Now how could she do that if she still was on the 4th floor as you seem to suggest?

[Jerry Freeman]

  It is possible there wasn't even an assassin on the 6th floor (I know, this is sacrilegious in the eyes of the LNs, but it could be true nevertheless), but if there was one, all he needed to do is carry a fake law enforcement ID and hide in the open on the 6th floor until the room was full with other officers and then simply walk out.

  Especially if there were some cops that were in on it.
Impossible? Why?

[John Iacoletti]

OAKers

> Nothing is Knowable
> Nothing is Provable
< Nothing is Believable

Something isn’t true just because you believe it.

[John Iacoletti]

While Adams and Styles press buttons, talk about what happened and wait for the elevator, Garner hears the first round of Baker's footsteps in the stairwell, thinking the noise is that of the girls going down. The noise stops, then resumes, getting louder until Garner sees Truly and Baker pass. Garner then goes to the supply room or her office, and is unaware when Adams and Styles cross the open space to begin their descend.

Cool story, bro.