Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963

[John Iacoletti]

I believe that LHO would have been able to hear Norman and Jarman when they stationed themselves on the fifth floor, just below the sniper’s nest.

If so, then it would have been especially stupid to claim that he saw them somewhere else.

If Norman and Jarman said anything (they probably did) I believe that LHO could have recognized their voices and known who it was just below.

He didn’t even know their names, but we’re to believe that he could pinpoint their voices through the floor with another guy talking as well? Remember, these guys didn’t hear any footsteps when the gunman supposedly made his mad dash for the staircase.

LHO would know that in order to access the elevator on the first floor Norman and Jarman would have been within sight of the door to the domino room.

That’s not true. There were many ways into the first floor, including open roll-up doors on the west side.

[John Iacoletti]

I think “Richard” meant fired the shot through the Walker window that night, because that’s the thing in your post that he was responding to. Then he acts surprised that you said that.

However, there isn’t any good evidence that Oswald fired anything that night. “Marina said” isn’t good evidence of anything.

[Walt Cakebread]

If so, then it would have been especially stupid to claim that he saw them somewhere else.

He didn’t even know Jarman’s name, but we’re to believe that he could pinpoint his voice one floor down. Remember, these guys didn’t hear any footsteps when the gunman supposedly made his mad dash for the staircase.

That’s not true. There were many ways into the first floor, including open roll up doors on the west side.

I'm puzzled by the idea that Lee would have had to have seen Jarman and Norman in the shipping room by the elevators.   Although he could have seen them there I believe it's more likely that he saw them as they walked past the windows of the Domino Room

[Charles Collins]

If so, then it would have been especially stupid to claim that he saw them somewhere else.

He didn’t even know their names, but we’re to believe that he could pinpoint their voices through the floor with another guy talking as well? Remember, these guys didn’t hear any footsteps when the gunman supposedly made his mad dash for the staircase.

That’s not true. There were many ways into the first floor, including open roll-up doors on the west side.

If so, then it would have been especially stupid to claim that he saw them somewhere else.


Not if he was lying about where he was.


He didn’t even know their names, but we’re to believe that he could pinpoint their voices through the floor with another guy talking as well?

Their names are irrelevant.



Remember, these guys didn’t hear any footsteps when the gunman supposedly made his mad dash for the staircase.


Remember, the sound of the bolt being cycled and the empty hulls hitting the floor were heard. And there was open windows on both floors. Plenty of reason to believe that LHO could have heard them talking and recognized the voices.



That’s not true. There were many ways into the first floor, including open roll-up doors on the west side.


The elevators are within sight of the door to the domino room. The path to the elevators is irrelevant.

[Walt Cakebread]

I think “Richard” meant fired the shot through the Walker window that night, because that’s the thing in your post that he was responding to. Then he acts surprised that you said that.

However, there isn’t any good evidence that Oswald fired anything that night. “Marina said” isn’t good evidence of anything.
 “Marina said” isn’t good evidence of anything./quote]


there isn’t any good evidence that Oswald fired anything that night.

If you reject the story.....Then you must believe it was made up out of whole cloth and has no  basis in fact.

Do you believe it was all concocted, John?

[John Iacoletti]

If so, then it would have been especially stupid to claim that he saw them somewhere else.

Not if he was lying about where he was.

If he had no idea they were ever near the domino room and only heard them on the fifth floor, it would be incredibly stupid to claim that he saw them on the first floor near the time of the shooting, because they’d easily refute that.

Their names are irrelevant.

Do you recognize the voice of any person whose name you do not know?

Remember, the sound of the bolt being cycled and the empty hulls hitting the floor were heard.

Only one of them claimed to hear that, and it was long after the fact. But hearing some mechanical noise is very different from discerning individual voices.

The elevators are within sight of the door to the domino room.

That’s not true either.

[John Iacoletti]

The door to the west elevator is on the far west side by the staircase and the overhead door.

[Charles Collins]

If he had no idea they were ever near the domino room and only heard them on the fifth floor, it would be incredibly stupid to claim that he saw them on the first floor near the time of the shooting, because they’d easily refute that.

Do you recognize the voice of any person whose name you do not know?

Only one of them claimed to hear that, and it was long after the fact. But hearing some mechanical noise is very different from discerning individual voices.

That’s not true either.

If he had no idea they were ever near the domino room and only heard them on the fifth floor, it would be incredibly stupid to claim that he saw them on the first floor near the time of the shooting, because they’d easily refute that.


You missed the point. He hears the elevator moving and stopping before it gets to the sixth floor. Seconds later he hears Norman and Jarman just below him on the fifth floor. He deduces that they just took the elevator up to the fifth floor. And the elevators are within sight of the domino room door.



Do you recognize the voice of any person whose name you do not know?


If I was recently employed at a facility with 70 employees, there would be many people there I didn’t know the names of. However, I believe that I could recognize voices of some of the ones I had had contact with and which I didn’t yet know their names and place them with the correct faces.



Only one of them claimed to hear that, and it was long after the fact. But hearing some mechanical noise is very different from discerning individual voices.

If I remember correctly, the WC did a demonstration that showed they could be heard. And consider there were open windows on both floors (~10-feet apart in elevation) directly over/under each other. And the people concerned were right at the windows. Given the conditions, I think it would be difficult not to hear Norman and Jarman.