Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963

[Charles Collins]

The door to the west elevator is on the far west side by the staircase and the overhead door.

There is simply no evidence that they used the stairs or the overhead door to get to the elevator. There is evidence that they didn’t use either.

[Martin Weidmann]

There is simply no evidence that they used the stairs or the overhead door to get to the elevator. There is evidence that they didn’t use either.

There is evidence that they didn’t use either.

And what exactly might that evidence be?

[Jerry Freeman]

You are easily confused.  We are discussing two different points in time.  Right after the assassination, there could only be speculation that the two crimes were related due to their similarity, uniqueness, and proximity in time and place.  An investigation then occurred that confirmed the fact.  Oswald confessed to his own wife.  The fact that you don't like this is meaningless as to the facts.

You are constantly confused....if indeed one can actually call it confusion. 

We are discussing two different points in time.

You 'discuss' nothing... only ramble on about stuff only you could imagine. 

...their similarity, uniqueness, and proximity in time and place.

You contradict yourself always. Different times? Yeah 7 months apart. What is similar about a pot shot into a crackpot generals house and the slaying of a man who's brother had said general committed to a nut house?

[Walt Cakebread]

So you are admitting Oswald fired the shot at Walker.  Got it!  LOL.  And your explanation about the JFK assassination is that - even though Oswald was apparently in on the plot to frame himself - he sat in the lunchroom where anyone could have seen him and provide him an unwanted alibi while someone else fired the shot.  LOL.  Why didn't they just instruct Oswald to fire a shot and miss JFK if they were ordering him around?  Do you realize how idiotic and bizarre what you are suggesting is?  That's a rhetorical question.

even though Oswald was apparently in on the plot to frame himself - he sat in the lunchroom where anyone could have seen him and provide him an unwanted alibi while someone else fired the shot.



Perhaps you've overlooked the fact that Lee could easily have ducked out of sight when he was in that 1st floor lunchroom. And I believe that he may have ducked into the toilet / shower when Jarman and Norman walked by the Domino Room  to insure that they did not see him.  Lee may have said that he was sitting in the 1st floor lunchroom but he was prepared to duck into the toilet/ shower if anybody approached the Domino Room. 

[John Iacoletti]

There is simply no evidence that they used the stairs or the overhead door to get to the elevator. There is evidence that they didn’t use either.

You missed the point. How would this hypothetical Oswald on the sixth floor know how they got to the elevator, even if he saw them outside, heard the elevator, and recognized their voices below him? Pretty silly to make up a sighting at the domino room without knowing they went by the domino room.

[John Iacoletti]

Now if Oswald really did see Jarman and Norman go by the lunchroom, why didn't he give specifics?

You don’t know that he didn’t.

[Martin Weidmann]

You don’t know that he didn’t.

Exactly. There are two things we know with certainty.

1.
The various reports give different versions of what Oswald is supposed to have said. One talks of Oswald having lunch with the two men, the other talks about the two men walking through a room. This alone justifies the conclusion that Oswald may well have told the correct story which was subsequently written down in the reports in an abbreviated and incorrect manner.

2.
Although perhaps not verbatim, all the reports say that Oswald claimed to have seen Norman (or was it Jarman?) and another black man he didn't know the name of. This alone makes it pretty certain that the encounter must indeed have taken place and when you look at the timeline, this could only have happened as Norman and Jarman made their way to the elevator to go to the 5th floor.

[Charles Collins]

You missed the point. How would this hypothetical Oswald on the sixth floor know how they got to the elevator, even if he saw them outside, heard the elevator, and recognized their voices below him? Pretty silly to make up a sighting at the domino room without knowing they went by the domino room.

Your false premise that he ”had to know” how they got to the elevator in order to say anything about seeing them is not the point. The other possibilities include:

1. He was just simply lying without really having any idea of where Norman and Jarman were at the time. But thought it would sound good as part of his lie.

2. He heard the elevator being used and stopping before it got to the sixth floor and seconds later heard Norman and Jarman below him. He deduced that in order to get onto the elevators Norman and Jarman would [most likely, if you insist] have been within sight of the door of the domino room. And he included this as part of his lie.

My point is that it wasn’t necessary for him to see Norman and Jarman outside in order to deduce that they would [most likely, if you insist] have been in view from the door of the domino room.