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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963
« Reply #64 on: August 24, 2022, 07:46:08 PM »
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The note-takers said Oswald claimed to be in the domino room having lunch with one or more people there, or that Oswald saw two people who came into the lunchroom. Taking all the reports from those present when Oswald was questioned, Fritz's note saying they "came in" means the two black men entered the lunchroom and possibly had lunch with Oswald there.

Nobody (except arguably Hosty) took contemporaneous notes. Not all the accounts said domino room either, just first floor.

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Re: Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963
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Re: Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963
« Reply #65 on: August 24, 2022, 07:52:15 PM »
Yes, John....I believe that you're right.   Attempting to tie the Walker incident to the assassination of JFK isn't logical.   Apparently the investigators weren't as perceptive as our Mr "Smith" because  DPD Chief Curry simply shrugged off the suggestion when he was asked if there was a connection between the two events.

However....I do believe there is a common MO in the two events.   Though there would have been no logical reason to tie the two events together on the evening of 11/22/63, it is now obvious that there is a common MO that can be applied to both events.

The common denominator is... Lee Oswald.    And in both events there are many many questions  that require answers that only Lee Oswald could supply.   

 

Two sniper attacks occurring on public figures in the same city within a few months of each other is a pretty "logical reason to tie the two events together."   They couldn't know with certainty that on 11.22 that they were connected until an investigation could be conducted but they certainly had a reasonable basis to believe they were related due to rarity of such a crime and the proximity in time and location.   I'm not sure why you find this mysterious or sinister.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963
« Reply #66 on: August 25, 2022, 12:12:01 AM »
Fritz's note saying they "came in" means the two black men entered the lunchroom

Not necessarily. It could just as easily mean that Oswald saw both men as they "came in" the building through the backdoor, which was very close to the door of the Domino room.

Fritz's note saying they "came in" means the two black men entered the lunchroom

My first thought when I read that they  "came in"  is that Lee was saying that Jarman and Norman "came in"  meant that they came in from outside...  IOW Lee said they came into the building.  He sure as hell wasn't saying that they came into the Lunchroom....Because he said that he was there in that lunchroom alone and he said nothing about anybody joining him and what's more  Jarman and Norman never said anything about entering the lunchroom.

This is the crap that the LNer's attempt to use to propagate the Warren Commission's big lie.

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Re: Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963
« Reply #67 on: August 25, 2022, 12:24:36 AM »
Nobody (except arguably Hosty) took contemporaneous notes. Not all the accounts said domino room either, just first floor.

I know that Fritz testified that he took no notes while interrogating Lee Oswald, but if you've seen the Notes that Fritz said he took several days after the interrogation you should be able to see that Fritz was a damned liar.   Nobody would hastily scribble those notes in the truncated and haphazard manner that is seen in Fritz's notes if he wrote them several days afterward.   ( Just the idea that he would take notes several days later is absurd) 

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Re: Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963
« Reply #68 on: August 25, 2022, 02:11:02 PM »
   Nothing that tends to incriminate their idol makes any sense to them. But, believing that everyone except their idol lied, and that all of the incriminating evidence is “highly questionable”, or outright fake, makes perfect sense to them. It’s more than simple confirmation bias. It’s insanity personified.
Why do you have to be so profoundly ludicrous?

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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963
« Reply #70 on: August 25, 2022, 02:29:50 PM »
I don't think they say Oswald said he was alone.

FBI agent James Bookhout, wrote:

"OSWALD stated that on November 22, 1963, he had eaten lunch in the lunch room at the Texas School Book Depository, alone, but recalled possibly two Negro employees walking through the room during this period. He stated possibly one of these employees was called ‘Junior’ and the other was a short individual whose name he could not recall but whom he would be able to recognize."     (WR, p.622)

Secret Service agent Thomas Kelley wrote:

"He said he ate his lunch with the colored boys who worked with him. He described one of them as ‘Junior’, a colored boy, and the other was a little short negro boy."     (WR, p.626)

What Fritz wrote: "say two negr. came in. One Jr. + short negro" refers to what Bookhout and Kelley wrote. There's nothing in all these accounts about Jarman and Norman entering the building through the back door.

And so, we have three different versions of what Oswald is supposed to have said.

We can be pretty sure, however, that Oswald, who knew the building and first floor lay out better that any of the three men, would not have said that "Junior and the short negro boy" walked through the lunchroom as that is simply impossible. Bookhout also doesn't say they walked through the lunchroom. It is however possible, and indeed more likely, that he saw Jarman and Norman come in, through the back door and walk towards the elevators which Bookhout describes as ""walk through the room".

There's nothing in all these accounts about Jarman and Norman entering the building through the back door.

There doesn't have to be. Where else would they have entered the building, on their way to the elevators, if not through the back door?

A fact that can't be denied is that all three reports confirm that Oswald said he saw "Junior and the short negro boy" (who we now know to be Jarman and Norman) when he was in the lunchroom eating his lunch. We know from the testimony of Jarman and Norman this could only have happened minutes prior to the shooting.

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Re: Jesse Curry Interviews Nov 1963
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