Re: Motorcycle Policeman Hargis said Limo stopped !

[Ray Mitcham]

  Think about it, Ray, it is a known fact that  Mrs. Kennedy is hiding the head wound from everyone and until Clint Hill placed his jacket over the head, and that then and only then did she let go of her husband.

"Think about it" don't fit, Steve. You said "she couldn't possibly have seen the back of the head before Clint Hill's suit coat was covering it...."

I believe that is called supposition. However, you are welcome to it.

[Ray Mitcham]

Where have you been, Ray?  I already have.  The witness just happens to be the closest witness to the head of JFK when he was shot.  She held her husbands head in her hands saying that she was trying to " trying to hold the top of his head down trying to keep it(the brain) in".  Read her interview with Theodore White within 7 days of the assassination, Ray.  On top of this, just what is it that you think we see flying into the air in the Zapruder film?  Those are the skull fragments that landed several yards ahead of where the limousine was located--two of which were discovered by people and turned over to the authorities. That is the top of the head. Not the rear, not the side. The top.  The autopsy photographs as well as the Zapruder film, Nix  film and Muchmore film all show the top of the head blown off, as does the Moorman photograph.  Chuck Brehm is another one who said he saw the top of his head shot off.

If JFK's head was in her lap, then she would certainly think that she was holding the top of his head on.

You think that all the witness at Parkland were  stupid, lying, or just plain wrong?>

[Royell Storing]

She couldn't have possibly seen the President's head before Clint Hill's suit coat was covering it before he was even removed from the vehicle and placed onto the gurney.

 Again, the top of the head, not the back, was blown off.

         STEVE - You need to Thoroughly read the above Hutton account of what went on. It clearly states, "As soon as WE REACHED THE ROOM...". There is No Way the Dr's and Hutton were administering medical aid to JFK inside Trauma Room 1 while he had Hill's jacket draped over his head. Hutton relates being asked by a Dr to apply a "pressure dressing on the head wound....". She documents seeing "... the massive opening on the BACK OF THE HEAD". Case Closed as to what Hutton saw, "...on the BACK OF THE HEAD", INSIDE Trauma Room 1.

[Steve Barber]

"Think about it" don't fit, Steve. You said "she couldn't possibly have seen the back of the head before Clint Hill's suit coat was covering it...."

I believe that is called supposition. However, you are welcome to it.

"Supposition" is what you conspiracy nutters thrive on!   

[Steve Barber]

If JFK's head was in her lap, then she would certainly think that she was holding the top of his head on.

You think that all the witness at Parkland were  stupid, lying, or just plain wrong?>

  Congratulations, Mitcham.  You have just won the "Stupid Comment Of The Day" award! I didn't say his head was in her "lap" and clearly, it wasn't in her lap or she would have been saturated with blood on the front of her dress which she isn't.  Since you rely so much on the Parkland doctors, then why don't red up on how much blood was all over them and the floor. It came from the head wound.  Her gloves were "caked" with blood which means that she was holding his head in her hands.  Trying to keep the top of his dead down means trying to keep the top of his head and trying to "keep it in" means trying to keep the brain inside the wound.  You people come up with some real crap.

[Steve Barber]

         STEVE - You need to Thoroughly read the above Hutton account of what went on. It clearly states, "As soon as WE REACHED THE ROOM...". There is No Way the Dr's and Hutton were administering medical aid to JFK inside Trauma Room 1 while he had Hill's jacket draped over his head. Hutton relates being asked by a Dr to apply a "pressure dressing on the head wound....". She documents seeing "... the massive opening on the BACK OF THE HEAD". Case Closed as to what Hutton saw, "...on the BACK OF THE HEAD", INSIDE Trauma Room 1.

 I did read it, Royell. I didn't say that they were administering medical id to the president while the coat was over his head.  How could she have seen a "massive head wound" when he is lying face up on the gurney?  The one and any way anyone could have seen the back of the head was to lift his head. Period.  We can argue about where the head wound was until the world ends, but nothing can change A. The words spoken to Theodore White by Mrs. Kennedy within 7 days of her husbands murder, where she gives a graphic description of where the head wound was and how she was trying to hold the TOP of his head down, and "maybe I could keep it in"--meaning the brain.  If she would have been trying to hold the back of his head on, she would have said "I was trying to keep the back of his head on", but she didn't.  And B. One witness, Chuck Brehm said he saw the top of the head "come off".  The autopsy photos of the top of the head reveal a large hole in top of the head.  The Zapruder film also reveals a large hole on top of the head and a large flap of skull turned inside out hanging in front of the ear, and this flap connects to the top of the skull, not the rear.    You film alterationists insist the film is fake, but that's your problem.   You also call Zapruder, Sitzman, the Newman's and Bobby Hargis either liars or mistaken in their description of what they saw when seeing the effects of the fatal shot to the head. which happened right in front of them.   

[Matt Grantham]

  How could she have seen a "massive head wound" when he is lying face up on the gurney? 

 Wen the brain plops out the back of the head onto the gurney it is very helpful in identifying a wound in the rear of the brainI assume your theory that doctors do not generally check out for rear head injuries, since less face it they are generally dealing with bodies on their backs, must be a significant problem for medicine in general Perhaps something like a rotisserie bar that turns the patients around might be a way around this

[John Iacoletti]

Do you remember James Altgens testifying that the head matter came in his direction?

He said "flesh particles", not large pieces of skull.

I look at it this way.  The car was traveling on an "S" curve, but, was in a direct line with Oswald's rifle.

"Oswald's rifle".  LOL.

The bullet entered the head which was tilted forward and turned to the left, and exited at the top of the skull sending skull fragments into the air along with particulate matter ( which is much lighter in weight compared to skull fragments) in all directions forward which splattered all over the inside of the car, outside of the car on the hood, the windshield, the sun visors (both sides) on the "side rails", the Connally's, Greer and Kellerman, Hargis, Martin and Chaney and of course Mrs. Kennedy.  As I pointed out, the skull fragments flew in the direction the bullet was traveling and straight ahead was the south side of Elm Street where they landed.  it's that simple.

So, basically what you're saying is that skull fragments landed over there because they landed over there.  That's not an explanation, that's just a tautology.  Look at the Dox drawing again.  Unless the skull pieces were carried across the street by  relatively tiny bullet fragments or by much lighter blood and brain matter (no significant amount of which was found ahead and across the street), the skull pieces would have been displaced towards the right.