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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Debunking the JFK Conspiracists: New Book
« Reply #88 on: November 30, 2022, 11:29:51 PM »
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The idea that it takes “balls” to make up a story that cannot be substantiated (like the official narrative) is patently absurd. It takes an overactive imagination.

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Online Charles Collins

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Re: Debunking the JFK Conspiracists: New Book
« Reply #89 on: December 01, 2022, 12:19:16 AM »
The idea that it takes “balls” to make up a story that cannot be substantiated (like the official narrative) is patently absurd. It takes an overactive imagination.

Who said anything about “making up” a story? The comment says “defend” a theory.

What’s truly absurd is to have a plethora of theories (59-years worth) to select from, and to pretend that none of them are valid. It appears that the people in the peanut gallery have decided that a theory of how the assassination happened is optional. That’s why they belong in the peanut gallery.

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Debunking the JFK Conspiracists: New Book
« Reply #90 on: December 01, 2022, 12:41:49 AM »
A “theory” with no basis is no different from a made-up story. It’s not some kind of virtue to be able to make up stories. People with no valid arguments resort to juvenile nicknames and hope that they somehow will make up the difference.
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Re: Debunking the JFK Conspiracists: New Book
« Reply #91 on: December 01, 2022, 12:46:01 AM »
How can you claim that CE 399 was a magic bullet since that bullet was still in Connallys left thigh ? Uh-oh !!!!!

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Re: Debunking the JFK Conspiracists: New Book
« Reply #92 on: December 01, 2022, 01:12:36 AM »
A “theory” with no basis is no different from a made-up story. It’s not some kind of virtue to be able to make up stories. People with no valid arguments resort to juvenile nicknames and hope that they somehow will make up the difference.


People in the peanut gallery have nothing significant to contribute. So they resort to showing their displeasure at everything.

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Re: Debunking the JFK Conspiracists: New Book
« Reply #93 on: December 01, 2022, 02:50:54 AM »
Condescending and supercilious put downs are what some people consider “significant”. But it’s all they‘ve got. They think people should show “pleasure” at their brilliant speculations.

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Re: Debunking the JFK Conspiracists: New Book
« Reply #94 on: August 14, 2023, 02:07:06 AM »
Just hopping on.  James Di Eugenio has critiqued Gagne's book at the Kennedysandking.com website.

P.S. The publisher for Gagne's book (Routledge) seems friendly to anti-conspiracy authors. I've critiqued an article by one of them who dismisses all JFK conspiracy theories.

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Re: Debunking the JFK Conspiracists: New Book
« Reply #95 on: August 14, 2023, 02:36:06 AM »
I give those CTers who at least articulate a theory some credit.  They have to defend those positions with evidence and arguments even though these efforts fail.  In contrast, the CTer contrarians won't even articulate who they believe was behind the assassination.  Like Inspector Clouseau, they suspect everyone, and they suspect no one.  There is apparently a dim realization that there is no evidence that points toward anyone other than Oswald.  Certainly no evidence that points toward anyone else that satisfies the impossible standard of proof that they apply to evidence of Oswald's guilt.  That also allows them to take the lazy defense attorney approach by suggesting doubt of Oswald's guilt without grappling with any of the direct implications of their claims having validity with all the obvious absurdity that entails.

Strawman arguments.  6 out of 7 mock trials have resulted in either a hung jury or acquittal in favor of Oswald - in other words, there is reasonable doubt as to his guilt. (The exception was a farcical trial).

We need not know who pulled the trigger or who planned it*.  All that is relevant to conclude the assassination was a conspiracy is that the evidence shows that Oswald could not have pulled it off and that it had to be by others.  It also doesn't help the lone gunman scenario that a cover-up of the truth by the Warren Commission and certain agencies or departments of the government occurred.

*People can theorize how, who and why after the fact - if the police didn't theorize, nobody would go to jail.  There are theories that fit the facts better than the SBT.

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« Reply #95 on: August 14, 2023, 02:36:06 AM »