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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: Deconstructing Bugliosi's "53 pieces of evidence"
« Reply #48 on: December 19, 2022, 07:14:47 PM »
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Yes, and think of all the seemingly random, average citizens that CTers have suggested were somehow coerced into implicating Oswald including his own wife.

More “Richard” BS. His wife implicated nothing. She had no knowledge of anything regarding the assassination.

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Re: Deconstructing Bugliosi's "53 pieces of evidence"
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Online Richard Smith

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Re: Deconstructing Bugliosi's "53 pieces of evidence"
« Reply #49 on: December 19, 2022, 08:55:54 PM »
We have apparent agreement even from the contrarians that Oswald owned a rifle, stored it in the Paine's garage, attempted to kill Walker, and that he posed for the BY photos since we have now learned that no CTer has ever suggested that Marina was coerced to lie about any of these events.  No more stinging rebuttals to the evidence like "Oswald's rifle - LOL."  Magnificent! Progress at last! 

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Re: Deconstructing Bugliosi's "53 pieces of evidence"
« Reply #50 on: December 19, 2022, 09:37:06 PM »
We have apparent agreement even from the contrarians that Oswald owned a rifle, stored it in the Paine's garage, attempted to kill Walker, and that he posed for the BY photos since we have now learned that no CTer has ever suggested that Marina was coerced to lie about any of these events.  No more stinging rebuttals to the evidence like "Oswald's rifle - LOL."  Magnificent! Progress at last!

What have you been smoking?

since we have now learned that no CTer has ever suggested that Marina was coerced to lie about any of these events.

Where did you learn that?

Such desperation......  :D
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Re: Deconstructing Bugliosi's "53 pieces of evidence"
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Re: Deconstructing Bugliosi's "53 pieces of evidence"
« Reply #51 on: December 19, 2022, 09:51:22 PM »
We have apparent agreement even from the contrarians that Oswald owned a rifle, stored it in the Paine's garage, attempted to kill Walker, and that he posed for the BY photos since we have now learned that no CTer has ever suggested that Marina was coerced to lie about any of these events.  No more stinging rebuttals to the evidence like "Oswald's rifle - LOL."  Magnificent! Progress at last!

More trademark “Richard” BS. None of these things implicate Lee in the Kennedy assassination. And she had no first hand knowledge of the alleged Walker attempt. Is “owned a rifle” and “backyard photos” supposed to be evidence of something?

As if referring to it as “Oswald’s rifle” somehow demonstrates that it was Oswald’s rifle. Assertions made without evidence deserve nothing more than a LOL.
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Re: Deconstructing Bugliosi's "53 pieces of evidence"
« Reply #52 on: December 20, 2022, 03:47:34 PM »
What have you been smoking?

since we have now learned that no CTer has ever suggested that Marina was coerced to lie about any of these events.

Where did you learn that?

Such desperation......  :D

From your fellow contrarian.  He said that Marina "implicated nothing."  So which is it?  Did Marina lie about Oswald owning a rifle, storing it in the Paine's garage, attempting to kill Walker, and taking the BY photos or not?  You can't have it every way.  Suggesting Marina lied about these matters in some instance but then denying that is what you are claiming.  There is no ambiguity in Marina's testimony on these points.  She repeatedly confirmed to the WC that Oswald owned a rifle, he kept it in Paine's garage, he admitted to attempting to kill Walker, and that she took the BY photos of Oswald holding the rifle.  So is she lying on these points or not?  Do you also believe these matters are not relevant to the assassination as he idiotically claimed?  Possession of the murder weapon, a similar assassination attempt, no explanation for the rifle being gone on 11.22, in fact lying about ever owning such a rifle etc.  LOL. 

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Re: Deconstructing Bugliosi's "53 pieces of evidence"
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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: Deconstructing Bugliosi's "53 pieces of evidence"
« Reply #53 on: December 20, 2022, 05:12:22 PM »
From your fellow contrarian.  He said that Marina "implicated nothing."  So which is it?  Did Marina lie about Oswald owning a rifle, storing it in the Paine's garage, attempting to kill Walker, and taking the BY photos or not? 

How do any of these claims implicate Lee in the Kennedy assassination? Be specific.

(Though we all know you’ll just refuse to answer)

BTW, “contrarian” is “Richard”-speak for “waaaah, he doesn’t believe my unsubstantiated assertions!  :'(

When did Marina ever say the rifle she though she saw in the garage in September was “the murder weapon”? How does hearsay about a “similar assassination” (whatever that means) tell you a single thing about who killed Kennedy? Hint: it doesn’t. Marina could be as honest and pure as the wind-driven snow and it still isn’t evidence for your wishful thinking. The fact that she was not honest or consistent just makes your argument that much worse.

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Re: Deconstructing Bugliosi's "53 pieces of evidence"
« Reply #54 on: December 20, 2022, 05:23:37 PM »
How does possession of the murder weapon implicate Oswald?  Wow.  How does lying to the police about the ownership of the rifle implicate Oswald?  Wow.  How does committing a similar crime with a similar MO just a few months before the assassination implicate Oswald?  Wow.   

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Re: Deconstructing Bugliosi's "53 pieces of evidence"
« Reply #55 on: December 20, 2022, 06:28:14 PM »
How does possession of the murder weapon implicate Oswald?  Wow.  How does lying to the police about the ownership of the rifle implicate Oswald?  Wow.  How does committing a similar crime with a similar MO just a few months before the assassination implicate Oswald?  Wow.

Your total lack of reading comprehension is playing up again.

How does possession of the murder weapon implicate Oswald?

Marina never confirmed that "Oswald's rifle" was the murder weapon. In fact, no honest person ever said that.

How does lying to the police about the ownership of the rifle implicate Oswald?

Who lied to the police about ownership of the rifle? And how do you even know the police was lied to?

How does committing a similar crime with a similar MO just a few months before the assassination implicate Oswald?

If "committing a similar crime" implicates somebody in a specific murder just how many suspects would there have been for the Kennedy murder?

As per usual, your ignorance is mindblowing. Wow.

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Re: Deconstructing Bugliosi's "53 pieces of evidence"
« Reply #55 on: December 20, 2022, 06:28:14 PM »