Iacoletti v Bug53

[Walt Cakebread]

Based on "evidence" like the red circles being a signal?  LOL.

The red rings were there..... That's Evidence of "something"

[Richard Smith]

The red rings were there..... That's Evidence of "something"

Interesting "logic."  Of course they were there as a fire safety measure and had absolutely nothing to do with the JFK assassination as you have repeatedly suggested.

[John Iacoletti]

Based on "evidence" like the red circles being a signal?  LOL.

“Richard” always focuses on the low-hanging fruit, even though his arguments are in the same category.

[Walt Cakebread]

Interesting "logic."  Of course they were there as a fire safety measure and had absolutely nothing to do with the JFK assassination as you have repeatedly suggested.

 they were there as a fire safety measure

Idiot!..... The TSBD had an external fire escape .....

[Richard Smith]

they were there as a fire safety measure

Idiot!..... The TSBD had an external fire escape .....

Imagine Bigfoot getting down that fire escape.

[Walt Cakebread]

The fire escape wasn't all that available. It could have become compromised by smoke, disrepair or severe weather. The back stairway could fill with smoke. It might be possible to make it to the roof. The rings were a last-resort method indicating where trapped people should gather.

The rings may now be anachonous. Nobody came to remove the rings; I thought firemen had lots of "down" time. Not a concern for Joe Public.

Jerry, Your attempt at rebuttal is nearly as idiotic as "Richard Smith's"....

[Richard Smith]

The use of red circles was a practice in some cities.



          — Fire Engineering, 1948

    RED CIRCLES TO FACILITATE RESCUE

    "The red circle will show the way in and out of Syracuse’s burning buildings.
     Fire Chief William J. Connelly has announced that red circles will be painted
     shortly on upper-floor windows of factories, warehouses and other business
     places.

     According to press accounts furnished Fire Engineering by James R. Jackson,
     Oswego, N. Y., the circle will indicate the window opens into an aisle or passage-
     way which will give firemen easy access to fight flames or effect rescues.

     Persons trapped inside a particular building will know that any window bearing
     the red circle will be the first place from which they will be rescued.

     The details of painting the red circles on windows, Chief Connelly said, are in
     the hands of Lieut. John Dacey of the fire prevention bureau. Each circle will
     measure eight or more inches in diameter, depending upon the size of the window.

     Employers and employes alike, the reports say, have agreed to keep
     free of obstructions all aisles leading to red circled windows."

Gary Mack provided a link to an article from decades before the assassination that confirmed the use of the red circles on the windows of Dallas buildings for fire safety purposes.  Walt has read that article.   Nevertheless, he can't be unconvinced of this fantasy that the circles were a "signal" to LBJ and others.   Imagine the absurdity of that.  Someone would have to paint or tape these circles on the windows of the building in plain sight of everyone in DP.  And somehow explain this activity to the TSBD employees or do it without being detected.  What were they going to do if the plan changed?  Hang out the window and scrape them off as the motorcade passed? 

[Walt Cakebread]

Stephen Fagin

Judson Shook

I have seen it mentioned in a late-60s article, possibly fifth-anniversary. The "red circle" is mentioned in the 2013 book "Assassination and Commemoration" by Stephen Fagin, Crator of the Sixth Floor Museum. Judson Shook, Director of Public Works for Dallas County from 1968 to 1981, is interviewed:

    "a painted red circle--a Dallas Fire Department indicator
     noting where to access the building from a ladder truck"

Walt keeping this alive is kind of sad. Early CTs used to make a big deal about Jackie getting red roses in Dallas instead of yellow.

 "a painted red circle--a Dallas Fire Department indicator
     noting where to access the building from a ladder truck"

 "a painted red circle   A ( singular) red circle .....PAINTED on the window pane....

Since there were seven red rings.....NOT simply a singular red circle how would the firemen know where to place their ladder??

And the red rings were apparently plastic "wreaths" that stuck to the window pane , and were NOT painted on the panes, because they were removed after the coup d'etat.