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Online Richard Smith

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Re: David Lifton has died
« Reply #40 on: December 13, 2022, 06:47:43 PM »
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As John said earlier;

I did read "Best Evidence" many years ago.  I don't find it credible.  How does that answer the question posed to you?  What do you find to be "credible evidence" to support Lifton's theory.  That is the claim you made.  So tell us what "credible evidence" supports his theory.  Surely you know since that is your claim.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #41 on: December 13, 2022, 06:58:28 PM »
I did read "Best Evidence" many years ago.  I don't find it credible.  How does that answer the question posed to you?

Great. I read the Warren Commission Report years ago, and I don’t find it credible. How does that answer the questions posed to you? Now where’s your evidence placing Oswald on the sixth floor at the time of the shooting?

Why do you get to demand answers when you provide none of your own? If Duncan banned such people, you’d be the first to go.
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Offline Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #42 on: December 13, 2022, 07:07:25 PM »
So again - what is the "credible evidence" that you believe supports Lifton's theory?  Why make a statement like that and then run like a child from it?  Do you believe there is "credible evidence" to support Lifton's theory or not?   If so, what is it?  Why is it so hard for you to explain your own position?  Duncan should intervene and ban members who make such statements and then refuse to defend them.

Why make a statement like that and then run like a child from it?

Like you did (and still do) with your pathetic claims that Oswald was on the 6th floor when the shots were fired and came down the stairs within 75 seconds after the last shot?

Why is it so hard for you to explain your own position?

That's what I have been asking you, re the above mentioned claims, for six months now. 

Duncan should intervene and ban members who make such statements and then refuse to defend them.

Says the guy who has refused to defend his own claims for some 6 months now.... Hilarious!

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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: David Lifton has died
« Reply #43 on: December 13, 2022, 07:12:37 PM »
I did read "Best Evidence" many years ago.  I don't find it credible. 

Wow, now there's a surprise....  :D

You find nothing credible that points away from the official narrative.

But now that you have already confirmed that you don't find Lifton's evidence credible, there isn't much point in answering your question. It'll be a complete waste of time, just like talking to you is most of the time.


Great. I read the Warren Commission Report years ago, and I don’t find it credible. How does that answer the questions posed to you? Now where’s your evidence placing Oswald on the sixth floor at the time of the shooting?

Why do you get to demand answers when you provide none of your own? If Duncan banned such people, you’d be the first to go.

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He said he had answered our questions by telling us to read the Warren report. Like you, I also did that, years ago and recently I had another look at Chapter 4 (which deals with the assassin on the 6th floor) and there isn't any kind of explanation or even a shred of evidence in there to support Richard's claims that Oswald was on the 6th floor when the shots were fired and/or that he did come down the stairs unnoticed within 75 seconds after the last shot.
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Re: David Lifton has died
« Reply #44 on: December 13, 2022, 07:39:25 PM »
Even Jesse Curry admitted that they had no proof Oswald fired a rifle and could not put him in that building with a gun in his hand. But “Richard” thinks he has some evidence that he never seems to get around to revealing. It’s a lot like Nixon’s “secret plan” and Trump’s tax returns.

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Online Richard Smith

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Re: David Lifton has died
« Reply #45 on: December 13, 2022, 08:02:37 PM »
Why make a statement like that and then run like a child from it?

Like you did (and still do) with your pathetic claims that Oswald was on the 6th floor when the shots were fired and came down the stairs within 75 seconds after the last shot?

Why is it so hard for you to explain your own position?

That's what I have been asking you, re the above mentioned claims, for six months now. 

Duncan should intervene and ban members who make such statements and then refuse to defend them.

Says the guy who has refused to defend his own claims for some 6 months now.... Hilarious!

You and I and many others have gone over and over and over the evidence that links Oswald to the crime more times than I can count.  Each single piece.  The rifle, prints, witnesses, bullet casings, absence of a credible alibi, flight from the scene, involvement in the murder of a police officer less than an hour later, resisting arrest, nutty political background, and numerous lies to the police regarding his ownership of a rifle, carrying a long package to work that morning etc.  Each piece of evidence has been discussed with you ad nauseum.  You know that evidence.  It has been compiled by the WC.  I know your opinion and you know mine about that evidence. There is no mystery or ambiguity about the evidence that I or any LNer rely upon to conclude it links Oswald to this crime.  Whenever you make an idiotic claim like there is "credible evidence" to support Lifton's theory and are called on this type of moronic claim you deflect the discussion to a a different topic.  So again, what "credible evidence" do you believe supports Lifton's theory as YOU claimed?  I've asked this simple and direct question in response to YOUR claim a dozen times and you refuse to answer.  It's bizarre.  It's YOUR claim.

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Re: David Lifton has died
« Reply #46 on: December 13, 2022, 08:26:10 PM »
You and I and many others have gone over and over and over the evidence that links Oswald to the crime more times than I can count.  Each single piece.  The rifle, prints, witnesses, bullet casings, absence of a credible alibi, flight from the scene, involvement in the murder of a police officer less than an hour later, resisting arrest, nutty political background, and numerous lies to the police regarding his ownership of a rifle, carrying a long package to work that morning etc.  Each piece of evidence has been discussed with you ad nauseum.  You know that evidence.  It has been compiled by the WC.  I know your opinion and you know mine about that evidence. There is no mystery or ambiguity about the evidence that I or any LNer rely upon to conclude it links Oswald to this crime.  Whenever you make an idiotic claim like there is "credible evidence" to support Lifton's theory and are called on this type of moronic claim you deflect the discussion to a a different topic.  So again, what "credible evidence" do you believe supports Lifton's theory as YOU claimed?  I've asked this simple and direct question in response to YOUR claim a dozen times and you refuse to answer.  It's bizarre.  It's YOUR claim.

You and I and many others have gone over and over and over the evidence that links Oswald to the crime more times than I can count.

Nope... If that were the case, I wouldn't be asking for six months. Care to try again?

The rifle, prints, witnesses, bullet casings, absence of a credible alibi, flight from the scene, involvement in the murder of a police officer less than an hour later, resisting arrest, nutty political background, and numerous lies to the police regarding his ownership of a rifle, carrying a long package to work that morning etc.  Each piece of evidence has been discussed with you ad nauseum.  You know that evidence.

Yes, I know this evidence and none of it comes even close to support your claim that Oswald was on the 6th floor when the shots were fired and that he came down the stairs unnoticed within 75 seconds after the shots. Apart from the rifle issue, it's all biased circumstantial BS, speculation and wild assumptions. As far as the rifle goes - and I have asked you this before -, even if Oswald did order and receive that particular rifle in March 1963, how does that even begin to prove that Oswald was on the 6th floor when the shots were fired on 11/22/63?

It has been compiled by the WC.  I know your opinion and you know mine about that evidence.

Sure, but our opinions about the WC evidence have nothing to do with what I have been asking up for months now. You claimed Oswald was on the 6th floor when the shots were fired and that he came down the stairs unnoticed within 75 seconds after the last shot. For both of your claims there is not a shred of evidence in the WC report. So, again, other than just an assumption or even a flawed conclusion on your part, what is your evidence that Oswald was on the 6th floor when the shots were fired and that he came down the stairs after the last shot?

There is no mystery or ambiguity about the evidence that I or any LNer rely upon to conclude it links Oswald to this crime.

You can't be serious. Nearly 60 years of discussion is a clear sign there is massive mystery and ambiguity about the evidence!

Whenever you make an idiotic claim like there is "credible evidence" to support Lifton's theory and are called on this type of moronic claim you deflect the discussion to a a different topic.

I did no such thing. I merely pointed out your massive hypocrisy. You've been playing this game for six months now. Pot meet kettle! I, on the other, have clearly stated from the beginning that I wasn't going to discuss Lifton's theories with you in a thread that deals with the man's death.

Btw, there is no "idiotic claim". What I said was that Lifton provided more credible evidence for his theories than you have ever presented for your wild and pathetic claims about Oswald being on the 6th floor. That's all I said and then you, as per usual, turned it all into a three ring circus.

I've asked this simple and direct question in response to YOUR claim a dozen times and you refuse to answer.  It's bizarre.  It's YOUR claim.

Join the club. I've been asking for 6 months for the evidence that supports your wild claims about Oswald being on the 6th floor and coming down the stairs and I am still waiting. Now, that's really bizarre!
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: David Lifton has died
« Reply #47 on: December 14, 2022, 02:07:41 AM »
Notice the trademark “Richard” sleight-of-hand here. He changes “evidence that Oswald was on the 6th floor when the shots were fired and came down the stairs within 75 seconds after the last shot” to “evidence that links Oswald to the crime”. Not that he has that either. Then he launches into his usual litany of false and unsubstantiated claims.

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Re: David Lifton has died
« Reply #47 on: December 14, 2022, 02:07:41 AM »