Tucker Carlson on the Kennedy Assassination

[Jon Banks]

I have strong reason to believe that Fox "News" is not affected by anything resembling intelligence.

CNN and MSNBC don't even hide it. They regularly hire former intelligence officials and put them on the air.

But aside from that, there are journalists who are willing to launder information into the news media for the intelligence community (Pricilla Johnson-McMillan style).

Ken Dilanian, who currently works for NBC News, was outed years ago for his relationship with the CIA:

Ex-Tribune reporter said to have ‘collaborative’ relationship with CIA
https://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-tribune-dilanian-20140904-story.html

In documents made public by the website, Dilanian appeared to promise positive news coverage and on occasion sent the CIA press office entire story drafts for review prior to publication. In at least one instance, the CIA’s reaction appears to have led to significant changes in a story eventually published by Tribune newspapers, according to the emails.

“I’m working on a story about congressional oversight of drone strikes that can present a good opportunity for you guys,” Dilanian wrote in one email to a CIA press officer, explaining that what he intended to report would be “reassuring to the public” about CIA drone strikes, according to the Intercept.

In another exchange, the website reported, Dilanian sent a full draft of an unpublished report about drone strikes along with the subject line, “does this look better?” In another, he directly asks the agency officer: “You wouldn’t put out disinformation on this, would you?”


The guy basically does PR for the CIA. Is there any wonder why fewer and fewer Americans trust the news media?

[Andrew Mason]

Good post except for the "deep state" pretense. ....

There is "something" like a "deep state" but it's not deep and it's not a state. It's the bureaucracy, the "administrative state" that carries out policies. It's the CIA, yes, but also the Interior Department that manages national parks. It's agencies and divisions and, most important, people with their own interests who promote their own policies and views. Nothing sinister, nothing Machiavellian; it's the way modern governments work.

There is a marked difference between: 1. agencies operating within government that have difficulty distinguishing between their agency's interests and the public interest (or assume that those interests are necessarily the same) and 2. an array of agencies essentially at odds with the government all linked by conspirators and operating together to achieve a common goal that they know to be different than the public interest that the democratically elected government sees.

[Charles Collins]

Unnamed source: The CIA killed Kennedy.
Tucker: Good enough for me!

 

Actually, I remember him only saying that “he believes” that the CIA was involved. It seems to me that they are trying (again) to make something out of nothing…

[Jack Nessan]

I didn’t really care for that part but I assume he has some friends who work at the agency or used to.

I found his story about Jack Ruby and Jolly West to be a very good example of how the media ignores the many strange coincidences in the case. Ruby was visited by an MKULTRA doctor before going crazy and most of the news media overlooked that fact.

There were a number of coincidences that day. Some of them point to Oswald’s guilt but, Carlson made no effort to point those out. There is no audience or money for the media in just admitting LHO did the deed.

[Jon Banks]

There were a number of coincidences that day. Some of them point to Oswald’s guilt but, Carlson made no effort to point those out. There is no audience or money for the media in just admitting LHO did the deed.

That’s not true. For example, Gerald Posner is a proven plagiarist yet still appears on national news shows about the JFK assassination. From the CT community, Jefferson Morley is the only researcher that the mainstream media gives air time to.

Secondly, Dr. Jolly West visited Ruby in prison after he was convicted for killing Oswald. Ruby was never the same afterwards.

[Ted Shields]

Secondly, Dr. Jolly West visited Ruby in prison after he was convicted for killing Oswald. Ruby was never the same afterwards.

He was never the same before Wests visit. He had already smashed his head off his cell wall before West showed up.

If "they" wanted to shut Ruby up, it makes no sense to wait until after he was arrested, detained, tried and convicted. Much like it makes no sense to shut Oswald up on the Sunday when hes been in police custody for 2 days. Could've already told them everything about a plot.

And then who shuts up West....

West also worked with Patty Hearst. He did good work there.

[Jon Banks]

Jolly West’s MKULTRA work overlapped with the time that he visited Jack Ruby:

After he shot Lee Harvey Oswald, Jack Ruby’s psychosis was diagnosed by the same CIA doctor who had once killed an elephant with psychedelics

Some researchers in the JFK assassination community are aware of the fact that one of the doctors that treated Jack Ruby was none other than Louis Jolyon West, a figure equally infamous for allegedly killing an elephant with LSD and for his work in MKULTRA - the Central Intelligence Agency’s infamous interrogation, hypnosis, and mind control program. An analysis of available documents from the CIA’s declassified archives and the recovered MKULTRA files shows that not only did West want to continue his work with the Agency during the period he was treating Ruby, the University he researched at thought that’s exactly what he was doing.

In the first subsection of the proposal itself, West says that he wants to continue the work for another 11 years. ”It is proposed that the experiments begun during 1955-56 involving hypnotizability, suggestibility, and the roles of certain drugs in altering these attributes, be continued and extended during 1956-67.” This would place West’s treatment of Ruby about three years before the proposed end of this particular MKULTRA subproject. In the proposal, West describes several elements of experiments that match the isolated experience of Ruby and West’s stated reason for going to see him…

In his report, West said that “hypnosis and intravenous sodium pentothal were included among possible techniques” to be used on Ruby. In his proposal to CIA for continuing his MKULTRA work with them, he proposed that “the combined use of hypnotic techniques and autonomic drugs be exercised.” Sodium pentothal, as a barbiturate, is one such autonomic drug that - frequently used in various MKULTRA experiments and other interrogation or hypnosis related programs. In total, West requested an additional $35,995.00 for the next year’s work, not including the other ten years of research he had proposed. This included $5000.00 for “polygraphic, electroencephalographic, electromyographic, and special stimulatory apparatus.”

https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2017/dec/19/mkruby/

[Jack Nessan]

That’s not true. For example, Gerald Posner is a proven plagiarist yet still appears on national news shows about the JFK assassination. From the CT community, Jefferson Morley is the only researcher that the mainstream media gives air time to.

Secondly, Dr. Jolly West visited Ruby in prison after he was convicted for killing Oswald. Ruby was never the same afterwards.

Did Tucker Carlson not just attempt to create the conspiracy argument on national TV?  What about Cyril Wecht, he is still around. There is no shortage of conspiracy proponents. The only shortage is based in the believability sphere.

It is hard to find someone who can overcome the lack of coherency of the argument that a conspiracy existed. The whole idea of a conspiracy is based on connecting imaginary random dots. Just like what Tucker Carlson just attempted to do.