Tucker Carlson on the Kennedy Assassination

[Jon Banks]

Jolly West’s MKULTRA work overlapped with the time that he visited Jack Ruby:

After he shot Lee Harvey Oswald, Jack Ruby’s psychosis was diagnosed by the same CIA doctor who had once killed an elephant with psychedelics

Some researchers in the JFK assassination community are aware of the fact that one of the doctors that treated Jack Ruby was none other than Louis Jolyon West, a figure equally infamous for allegedly killing an elephant with LSD and for his work in MKULTRA - the Central Intelligence Agency’s infamous interrogation, hypnosis, and mind control program. An analysis of available documents from the CIA’s declassified archives and the recovered MKULTRA files shows that not only did West want to continue his work with the Agency during the period he was treating Ruby, the University he researched at thought that’s exactly what he was doing.

In the first subsection of the proposal itself, West says that he wants to continue the work for another 11 years. ”It is proposed that the experiments begun during 1955-56 involving hypnotizability, suggestibility, and the roles of certain drugs in altering these attributes, be continued and extended during 1956-67.” This would place West’s treatment of Ruby about three years before the proposed end of this particular MKULTRA subproject. In the proposal, West describes several elements of experiments that match the isolated experience of Ruby and West’s stated reason for going to see him…

In his report, West said that “hypnosis and intravenous sodium pentothal were included among possible techniques” to be used on Ruby. In his proposal to CIA for continuing his MKULTRA work with them, he proposed that “the combined use of hypnotic techniques and autonomic drugs be exercised.” Sodium pentothal, as a barbiturate, is one such autonomic drug that - frequently used in various MKULTRA experiments and other interrogation or hypnosis related programs. In total, West requested an additional $35,995.00 for the next year’s work, not including the other ten years of research he had proposed. This included $5000.00 for “polygraphic, electroencephalographic, electromyographic, and special stimulatory apparatus.”

https://www.muckrock.com/news/archives/2017/dec/19/mkruby/

[Jack Nessan]

That’s not true. For example, Gerald Posner is a proven plagiarist yet still appears on national news shows about the JFK assassination. From the CT community, Jefferson Morley is the only researcher that the mainstream media gives air time to.

Secondly, Dr. Jolly West visited Ruby in prison after he was convicted for killing Oswald. Ruby was never the same afterwards.

Did Tucker Carlson not just attempt to create the conspiracy argument on national TV?  What about Cyril Wecht, he is still around. There is no shortage of conspiracy proponents. The only shortage is based in the believability sphere.

It is hard to find someone who can overcome the lack of coherency of the argument that a conspiracy existed. The whole idea of a conspiracy is based on connecting imaginary random dots. Just like what Tucker Carlson just attempted to do.

 

[Charles Collins]

That’s not true. For example, Gerald Posner is a proven plagiarist yet still appears on national news shows about the JFK assassination. From the CT community, Jefferson Morley is the only researcher that the mainstream media gives air time to.

Secondly, Dr. Jolly West visited Ruby in prison after he was convicted for killing Oswald. Ruby was never the same afterwards.

Secondly, Dr. Jolly West visited Ruby in prison after he was convicted for killing Oswald. Ruby was never the same afterwards.


Looking at the linked article, Dr. Hubert Winston Smith is cited in the April 26, 1964 report as having requested Dr. West’s visit. Dr. Smith was one of Ruby’s lawyers, and appears to have been well qualified.

Where are you getting the idea that “Ruby was never the same afterwards”? Rabbi Silverman was in regular, close, and in person, contact with Ruby before, during, and after this. As far as I know, he hasn’t indicated anything of the sort.

[Jon Banks]

Carlson is probably citing the research of Tom O’Neill. Here’s a clip of him from Joe Rogan’s show:

[Charles Collins]

Carlson is probably citing the research of Tom O’Neill. Here’s a clip of him from Joe Rogan’s show:

Is this in response to my question? The video says West was court appointed. I don’t believe that and I am not going to spend twenty minutes of my time watching this silly crap. If you cannot answer the question and cannot show where the court “appointed” West, then please stop disseminating this nonsense.

[Jon Banks]

Is this in response to my question? The video says West was court appointed. I don’t believe that and I am not going to spend twenty minutes of my time watching this silly crap. If you cannot answer the question and cannot show where the court “appointed” West, then please stop disseminating this nonsense.

I encourage you to watch and make up your own mind. It never hurts to hear different points of view.

O’Neill has done in-depth research into the CIA’s MKULTRA programs and says he only accidentally stumbled upon information about Jolly West and Jack Ruby. He doesn’t address other JFK assassination related issues. He didn’t begin his research looking for a connection to the Kennedy assassination.

[Charles Collins]

I encourage you to watch and make up your own mind. It never hurts to hear different points of view.

O’Neill has done in-depth research into the CIA’s MKULTRA programs and says he only accidentally stumbled upon information about Jolly West and Jack Ruby. He doesn’t address other JFK assassination related issues. He didn’t begin his research looking for a connection to the Kennedy assassination.

According to the April 26, 1964 report, all of this was done with prior knowledge of the American Psychiatric Association, assistance of some qualified Texas assistants, and with results of the examination completely available to the court. Why the heck you think that he “stumbled upon” some dark secret is beyond me. The first thirty seconds of that sham video is as much as I could handle.

Are we going to have to assume that you cannot answer my questions?

[Martin Weidmann]

According to the April 26, 1964 report, all of this was done with prior knowledge of the American Psychiatric Association, assistance of some qualified Texas assistants, and with results of the examination completely available to the court. Why the heck you think that he “stumbled upon” some dark secret is beyond me. The first thirty seconds of that sham video is as much as I could handle.

Are we going to have to assume that you cannot answer my questions?

The first thirty seconds of that sham video is as much as I could handle.

How can you call it a sham video without having watched it?