Tucker Carlson on the Kennedy Assassination

[Jon Banks]

Really? CIA and FBI agents who were working in a covert capacity pretended to hold different political views rather frequently. There's nothing wild or insane about assuming that Oswald was doing the same, especially given the evidence we now have regarding his intelligence connections.

True. While I believe Oswald probably was politically Liberal (like Ruth and Michael Paine), I don't believe he 'hated America' or was a devoted Communist.

His actions in 1959 and when he moved to New Orleans in 1963 smell like intelligence operations. He typically was a quiet and private guy but in both cases (Russia in 1959 and New Orleans in 1963) he went out of his way to draw attention to himself and get noticed by the Press.

And who says the conspiracy involved "hundreds of people"? "Hundreds"? Where do you get that? Most of the people who took part in the cover-up were not conspirators, had no knowledge of a conspiracy, and were just following orders. All the military medical aides/technicians at the autopsy were placed under a gag order and were threatened with a court martial if they violated it--that's why many years passed before any of them began to talk about what they had seen. The few Dallas law enforcement officers who spoke out about suspicious things they had witnessed were subject to harassment and threats--one of them was murdered.

Do you have any idea how many secret and illegal government operations went undiscovered for decades, even though dozens of people participated in them? It took over 20 years before the Tuskegee syphilis experiments on blacks were uncovered. It took at least 10 years before information about the illegal radiation tests on inmates in the early 1960s began to come to light, and only in the 1990s did we learn the full scope of the illegal program. Take a guess how many years passed before the 1962 Joint Chiefs of Staff's Operation Northwoods proposal was revealed? 35 years--it was finally uncovered in 1997 by the ARRB.

Conflating the plausible conspiracy and confirmed coverups is how they avoid addressing legit questions about the former.

Of course, no one here has assumed that every person involved with the conspiracy or coverups knew the truth. People who are directly or indirectly involved stay silent in order to protect their livelihoods and families. Some people don't want to know the truth if it's going to get them in trouble.

[Jon Banks]

Anyone else find it strange how Carlson accusing the CIA of killing JFK was broadly ignored by the mainstream media?

Carlson currently has the most popular prime time news show and the MSM has covered him when he has said other controversial stuff. Most notably when he accused the NSA of tapping his phone.

But it's been crickets from them on the JFK assassination episode. So weird...

[Tim Nickerson]

I think this thread explains a lot about what people believe and who they believe in. Carlson is nothing but a showman. A liar. He'll say anything as long as it drums up ratings for the network he works for. You simply cannot trust anything that comes out of his mouth, yet there are people - like those replying here - who do actually believe the nonsense he talks about.

And he was sued for it too.

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/new-york/nysdce/1:2019cv11161/527808/39/

And when things get too close to home this is what happens:

I'm amazed there are people on here who actually take his word for anything he says. At the same time, I shouldn't be too amazed on here as there really are a huge number of biased folks on here who simply can't handle the truth about the JFK murder.

I don't have subscription TV, but I do watch Clips of Tucker's show on YouTube. I like him. I think he's the most honest of the bunch. He does occasionally say stupid or unsupportable things from time to time though. I don't know what he was hoping to accomplish by throwing that bone to the conspiracy believers. It all over the web that the CIA admitted to being involved in the assassination. People are stupid.

Tucker's show is not really a straight up news program. It is an entertainment program to some degree. The program's team of lawyers did what they were hired to do. They used the same defense that Rachel Maddow's lawyers did. That's not something that lefties like you ever bring up.

https://timesofsandiego.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/MADDOW-DISMISS.pdf

[Tom Scully]

I don't have subscription TV, but I do watch Clips of Tucker's show on YouTube. I like him. I think he's the most honest of the bunch. He does occasionally say stupid or unsupportable things from time to time though. I don't know what he was hoping to accomplish by throwing that bone to the conspiracy believers. It all over the web that the CIA admitted to being involved in the assassination. People are stupid.

Tucker's show is not really a straight up news program. It is an entertainment program to some degree. The program's team of lawyers did what they were hired to do. They used the same defense that Rachel Maddow's lawyers did. That's not something that lefties like you ever bring up.

https://timesofsandiego.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/MADDOW-DISMISS.pdf

"The most honest of the bunch." The judge and Fox News lawyers agreed Tucker is not to be taken seriously.
His performances are bait to attract eyeballs to his high paying advertisers' messaging.

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/new-york/nysdce/1:2019cv11161/527808/39/


OAN employed a Kremlin paid journalist and the political propaganda OAN puts out is identical to Russian disinfo,

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/568213-oan-loses-appeal-in-defamation-lawsuit-against-rachel-maddow/
 OAN loses appeal in defamation lawsuit against Rachel Maddow
by Celine Castronuovo - 08/17/21

A columnist of this right wing extremist newspaper supports my point about the difference between Carlson and Maddow,

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/sad-at-being-called-out-for-russian-propaganda-one-america-news-threatens-to-sue-the-daily-beast
By Tom Rogan, National Security Writer & Online Editor   July 31, 2019
"..One America News network and the Kremlin's Sputnik outlet like to spread fake news relating to Syria. At times they do so using the same Russian government front. This effort serves the Kremlin's interests.

And that's why One America News network will fail to get the Daily Beast retract a story on OAN's sometime-synergy with the Kremlin. OAN's lawyers are making the same demand of MSNBC, which referenced the Daily Beast's reporting on a recent episode of Rachel Maddow's show.."

[Richard Smith]

I don't have subscription TV, but I do watch Clips of Tucker's show on YouTube. I like him. I think he's the most honest of the bunch. He does occasionally say stupid or unsupportable things from time to time though. I don't know what he was hoping to accomplish by throwing that bone to the conspiracy believers. It all over the web that the CIA admitted to being involved in the assassination. People are stupid.

Tucker's show is not really a straight up news program. It is an entertainment program to some degree. The program's team of lawyers did what they were hired to do. They used the same defense that Rachel Maddow's lawyers did. That's not something that lefties like you ever bring up.

https://timesofsandiego.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/MADDOW-DISMISS.pdf

There was a time when the liberals questioned what they were told by the government, supported free speech, and opposed endless war.  Sadly those days are long gone.  It's now the conservatives who do those things while the leftist media tows the line like a state sponsored propaganda network.  Tucker gets some things wrong like this bit about a conspiracy to kill JFK.  But at least he questions the nonsense that is espoused by the corrupt establishment.  Most recently that Russia blew up its own pipeline.  Something that makes absolutely no sense but that is what they told the public.  And then silence. 

[Jon Banks]

There was a time when the liberals questioned what they were told by the government, supported free speech, and opposed endless war.  Sadly those days are long gone.  It's now the conservatives who do those things while the leftist media tows the line like a state sponsored propaganda network.  Tucker gets some things wrong like this bit about a conspiracy to kill JFK.  But at least he questions the nonsense that is espoused by the corrupt establishment.  Most recently that Russia blew up its own pipeline.  Something that makes absolutely no sense but that is what they told the public.  And then silence.

On this we agree. I consider myself to be politically Progressive and vehemently disagree with most of Tucker's content.

But what annoys me the most is that there's currently no one in the so called "Liberal media" that questions US foreign policies and challenges the military industrial complex as strongly as Tucker does. People like Michael Moore and Oliver Stone have basically been neutered by today's Liberal media which frequently defends the FBI and CIA.

The truth about the Nord Stream pipeline sabotage will be swept under the rug because it's clear that Russia didn't do it. 

[Mark A. Oblazney]

"The most honest of the bunch." The judge and Fox News lawyers agreed Tucker is not to be taken seriously.
His performances are bait to attract eyeballs to his high paying advertisers' messaging.

https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/new-york/nysdce/1:2019cv11161/527808/39/


OAN employed a Kremlin paid journalist and the political propaganda OAN puts out is identical to Russian disinfo,

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/568213-oan-loses-appeal-in-defamation-lawsuit-against-rachel-maddow/
 OAN loses appeal in defamation lawsuit against Rachel Maddow
by Celine Castronuovo - 08/17/21

A columnist of this right wing extremist newspaper supports my point about the difference between Carlson and Maddow,

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/sad-at-being-called-out-for-russian-propaganda-one-america-news-threatens-to-sue-the-daily-beast
By Tom Rogan, National Security Writer & Online Editor   July 31, 2019
"..One America News network and the Kremlin's Sputnik outlet like to spread fake news relating to Syria. At times they do so using the same Russian government front. This effort serves the Kremlin's interests.

And that's why One America News network will fail to get the Daily Beast retract a story on OAN's sometime-synergy with the Kremlin. OAN's lawyers are making the same demand of MSNBC, which referenced the Daily Beast's reporting on a recent episode of Rachel Maddow's show.."

interesting stuff, oui, tom?  merry christmas+

[Steve M. Galbraith]

Anyone else find it strange how Carlson accusing the CIA of killing JFK was broadly ignored by the mainstream media?

Carlson currently has the most popular prime time news show and the MSM has covered him when he has said other controversial stuff. Most notably when he accused the NSA of tapping his phone.

But it's been crickets from them on the JFK assassination episode. So weird...

Carlson had an anonymous guest on making completely unsubstantiated claims. What is there to report on? You think this was good journalism on Carlson's part? Challenging the government is fine but that doesn't mean the challenges themselves go unchallenged. Isn't the complaint that people who challenged the Trump Administration and President Trump were uncritically relied upon?

Question: Why would the same media that exposed the abuses by Hoover and the FBI, e.g., Cointelpro, the CIA's abuses, the lies of Vietnam and Watergate and other abuses/crimes cover up for the CIA's murder of JFK? Why would they expose one but not the other?

This was the sainted JFK, a hero to the liberal establishment. I find it completely illogical for the media like the NY Times and Washington Post who certainly didn't care for LBJ or Hoover or the CIA to then turn around and cover for the murder of Kennedy. It's even worse than illogical, there isn't the slightest evidence for it. No one who worked for those outlets, to my knowledge, has ever come forward and exposed this corruption.

The idea that all of these people over nearly 60 years - several generations of Americans in government and outside - have covered up for the CIA's murder of JFK has no basis in fact whatsoever. Is there a group of guardians in government over these decades who have kept this secret? Even today? Is this remotely possible?