The Floor-Laying Crew

[Charles Collins]

I would say at least 4 feet back.

Okay, here's what ~4.5' looks like in my 3D model. BRW sitting on the cart is the camera position and is represented by the virtual visitor icon. I don't think it is quite that far, but giving you the benefit of the doubt, the stack of boxes is approximately 4.5' from the inside of the south wall. I have made one box invisible so that part of the rifleman character can be seen behind the boxes from BRW's position. The rifleman character is about 5' from the inside of the south wall, within the revised range that Rowland estimated.







Here is the view from Arnold Rowland's position. It fits reasonably well with his description.

[John Iacoletti]

Hmm...ok, conceivable.  But that would put the gunman tantalizingly close to the very edge of being seen.

[Charles Collins]

Hmm...ok, conceivable.  But that would put the gunman tantalizingly close to the very edge of being seen.

Yes, I agree. However, consider the timing. Arnold Rowland said he saw the man with the rifle while the epileptic event was happening. The ambulance arrived using lights and siren. If the man with the rifle was keeping out of sight on the west end of the sixth floor, he might have heard the associated commotion going on outside in Dealey Plaza and decided to get a look outside because he might have thought the siren etc., could be associated with the motorcade arriving in Dealey Plaza. And he wanted to be ready to fire (out the west window if necessary) when the limo passed the building. So, taking a chance of being seen by someone in Dealey Plaza was necessary. And that would also apply to BRW if he was still on the sixth floor. Standing back from the window reduced the chance of being seen from the outside, and the stacks of boxes did the same regarding BRW.

[Richard Smith]

~Yawn~

Already addressed in Reply #11 on this thread

You addressed nothing except your fantasy.  Suggesting that the home improvement team left the building before the assassination doesn't explain how your fantasy shooter(s) got out of the building if you support the baseless allegation that LHO couldn't even have gotten to the 2nd floor unnoticed using the same stairs.  Time and again we learn that the fantasy conspirators could do things that Oswald could not have done.  Amazing.

[Martin Weidmann]

You addressed nothing except your fantasy.  Suggesting that the home improvement team left the building before the assassination doesn't explain how your fantasy shooter(s) got out of the building if you support the baseless allegation that LHO couldn't even have gotten to the 2nd floor unnoticed using the same stairs.  Time and again we learn that the fantasy conspirators could do things that Oswald could not have done.  Amazing.

Just another typical misrepresentation of the facts!

Oswald was the only person who needed to get down the stairs within roughly 75 seconds after the last shot, because that's when he was seen in the 2nd floor lunchroom.

Anybody else could simply have waited on the 6th floor for a while and then walk out of the building amidst all the confusion.

[Richard Smith]

Just another typical misrepresentation of the facts!

Oswald was the only person who needed to get down the stairs within roughly 75 seconds after the last shot, because that's when he was seen in the 2nd floor lunchroom.

Anybody else could simply have waited on the 6th floor for a while and then walk out of the building amidst all the confusion.

That's ALL they had to do with the law enforcement swarming the building?  HA HA HA.   How did your fantasy person "walk out of the building" after standing around the 6th floor for 75 or more seconds after assassinating the president?  Why would they just stand there at the crime scene?  HA HA HA.  Unreal.

[Martin Weidmann]

That's ALL they had to do with the law enforcement swarming the building?  HA HA HA.   How did your fantasy person "walk out of the building" after standing around the 6th floor for 75 or more seconds after assassinating the president?  Why would they just stand there at the crime scene?  HA HA HA.  Unreal.

That's ALL they had to do with the law enforcement swarming the building?

Hiding in plain sight. With so many different men from various law enforcement agencies coming on to the floor, it would be extremely easy not to be noticed in the chaos of those first 15 minutes or so.

How did your fantasy person "walk out of the building" after standing around the 6th floor for 75 or more seconds after assassinating the president?

By simply walking down the stairs, perhaps even pretending to be just another law enforcement agent.

Why would they just stand there at the crime scene?

Who said that?

Do you really think anybody would have thought that it was possible that the shooter was still up there? The mere fact that they didn't storm the 6th floor with guns drawn is a clear indicator they never entertained that possibility, which of course made it the most brilliant scenario for an escape in plain sight!

You asked for a possible explanation and (although it is clear that you will never accept it) I gave you one. Deal with it. If you feel this could never have happened that way, please share your "wisdom" with all of us and tell us why it couldn't have happened?

[Alan Ford]

You addressed nothing except your fantasy.  Suggesting that the home improvement team left the building before the assassination doesn't explain how your fantasy shooter(s) got out of the building

~Grin~

MR. RICHARD SMITH: "Now how did all these guys 'get down the stairs unnoticed'...?"
MR. ALAN FORD: [Directs Mr. Smith to Reply #11, which already addressed the issue back on p. 2 of the thread]
MR. RICHARD SMITH: "You addressed nothing..."
ALSO MR. RICHARD SMITH: "shooter(s)"

if you support the baseless allegation that LHO couldn't even have gotten to the 2nd floor unnoticed using the same stairs.  Time and again we learn that the fantasy conspirators could do things that Oswald could not have done.  Amazing.

~Yawn~

One conspirator (not of course Mr. Oswald) did not get downstairs unnoticed. He was caught walking away from the rear stairway several floors up by Officer Baker. How many times do you need basic stuff like this explained to you, Mr. Smith, before it lodges in your brain? You're like a really, really suboptimal version of ChatGPT..............