When the SN was built

[Charles Collins]

They didn't "test the accuracy" of the people in Dealey Plaza who claimed to see a rifle sticking through the window by asking the people who did not see a rifle sticking through the window.

Five people said they saw the rifle. Only Arnold Rowland said he saw a man with the rifle in the SW corner window. And only Kellerman said he heard JFK speak after being shot through the neck.

[Alan Ford]

I am not asking anyone to believe the above conjecture has to be correct. Personally, I believe that Arnold Rowland just misremembered which floor and when he saw the elderly black man (aka BRW). However, if we entertain the idea that BRW was too scared to tell anyone that he was in the sniper’s nest before the assassination, then the above conjecture seems possible to me.

'If I can make Rowland's sighting somehow conformable to my beloved LHO-Acted-Alone theory, I just might be willing to stop attacking the integrity of him and his wife. All the "issues" I've been presenting as defeaters of his claim will suddenly evaporate into thin air'

[Alan Ford]

Just because Rowland doesn’t see a gunman at the SW window again after about 30 secs does not mean necessarily the gunman left the window and never returned. He might have just moved out of LOS by hiding in the corner just right of the SW window which placed him in total shade.

If this is the scenario, then the  bald elderly negro at the SE window was probably not BRW , but more likely a 2nd gunman, and was in process of preparing that window by placing a box and then lowering the window to the 15.5 inch height. He was 1st glimpsed at 12:15 and then at 12:20 by Rowland. At 12:25  when Rowland looked again, there’s no black man anymore.

Could this indicate that at 12:25  the box has been placed , the window lowered , and the black man is hiding or sitting on the floor and out of LOS?

Something like this, yes.

Plus NB!: that particular man was chosen to hang out at the SN window for a long period because of his ethnicity: he would be likely to attract notice. Cuban.

 

[Alan Ford]

Five people said they saw the rifle. Only Arnold Rowland said he saw a man with the rifle in the SW corner window. And only Kellerman said he heard JFK speak after being shot through the neck.

Only Mr. Charles Givens said he saw Mr. Oswald on the sixth floor after the men broke for lunch. And yet you show no interest in his criminal record; nor in ascertaining whether he mentioned to a single co-worker about this post-elevator-race sighting at any time prior to his WC testimony; nor in the fact that he had earlier gone on the record putting his sighting of Mr. Oswald prior to the elevator race. No-------------such niceties are of no interest to you. You trust Mr. Givens' account implicitly. And why? One reason: the Warren Report tells you to.

Meanwhile, it's open season on "Arnie" and "Babs". Why? One reason: you are mindlessly endorsing the Warren Commission's policy towards them

[Alan Ford]

Brenan’s wife wasn’t with him.


However, consider Kellerman’s testimony that he heard JFK say that he had been hit. All the other occupants of the limo were questioned to test the accuracy of Kellerman’s testimony.

Did Mr. Rowland mention to his wife at the time or afterwards all the other non-rifle-carrying people he noticed in the area prior to the motorcade? As far as he knew, the 'elderly Negro' was no more germane to the case than any of them.

[Alan Ford]

Five people said they saw the rifle. Only Arnold Rowland said he saw a man with the rifle in the SW corner window. And only Kellerman said he heard JFK speak after being shot through the neck.

Great point. And the same reasoning led to Ms. Sandra Styles being called as a witness by the WC

[Alan Ford]

Had Mr. Rowland been on the sixth floor of the Depository prior to 11/22/63?

If not, then he cannot have known from the outside that it was one single open floor.

It's the converse of someone not familiar with the fourth floor seeing a person at the southwest window and another person at the southeast window. The observer wouldn't know that the person at the southwest window cannot see the person at the southeast window.

Mr. Rowland cannot have understood at the time the potential significance of the simultaneity of the two men's presence at opposite ends of the sixth floor

 

[Alan Ford]

FBI were VERY worried by Mr. Rowland's description of the bald(ing) bright-plaid-shirt-wearing 'elderly Negro'. They called in Messrs. Eddie Piper and Troy West, even taking photographs of both men.

Their conclusion after establishing----------to their own satisfaction at least------------that neither man could have been the man seen by Mr. Rowland? As no Depository employee fits the description, Mr. Rowland must not have seen what he says he saw.

This is hilarious! As though an alternative conclusion didn't exist: the man seen by Mr. Rowland was not a Depository employee, duh!

This nonsense is of course replicated by our Warren Gullibles here: 'As no conspiracy-favoring explanation can possibly be entertained, the most logical explanation of X is Y'