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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: When the SN was built
« Reply #264 on: February 15, 2023, 05:39:02 PM »
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However, if we entertain the idea that BRW was too scared to tell anyone that he was in the sniper’s nest before the assassination, then the above conjecture seems possible to me.

That, coupled with his chicken bones being reportedly seen on boxes behind the SE window, make this possibility even more probable.

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Online Charles Collins

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« Reply #265 on: February 15, 2023, 05:45:04 PM »
Funny how they didn't do anything like that to "test the accuracy" of Brennan's testimony.


Brenan’s wife wasn’t with him.


However, consider Kellerman’s testimony that he heard JFK say that he had been hit. All the other occupants of the limo were questioned to test the accuracy of Kellerman’s testimony.

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« Reply #266 on: February 15, 2023, 05:49:30 PM »
They didn't "test the accuracy" of the people in Dealey Plaza who claimed to see a rifle sticking through the window by asking the people who did not see a rifle sticking through the window.

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Offline Zeon Mason

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« Reply #267 on: February 15, 2023, 06:55:32 PM »
There is no reason for the shooter to approach the SW window with a rifle at the ready position unless he was intending in take up a position at that window to prepare to shoot from that window.

Just because Rowland doesn’t see a gunman at the SW window again after about 30 secs does not mean necessarily the gunman left the window and never returned. He might have just moved out of LOS by hiding in the corner just right of the SW window which placed him in total shade.

If this is the scenario, then the  bald elderly negro at the SE window was probably not BRW , but more likely a 2nd gunman, and was in process of preparing that window by placing a box and then lowering the window to the 15.5 inch height. He was 1st glimpsed at 12:15 and then at 12:20 by Rowland. At 12:25  when Rowland looked again, there’s no black man anymore.

Could this indicate that at 12:25  the box has been placed , the window lowered , and the black man is hiding or sitting on the floor and out of LOS?

If he is a 2nd gunman, however , ( to shoot the MC rifle to frame Oswald?) then surely Brennan and Euins would have IDd the shooter as a “dark completed” male with a noticeable bald head?

Only Euins comes close by describing a bald spot, and there’s some controversy as to whether or not Euins ever made an initial statement  that the man as a black man.

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« Reply #268 on: February 15, 2023, 06:57:22 PM »
They didn't "test the accuracy" of the people in Dealey Plaza who claimed to see a rifle sticking through the window by asking the people who did not see a rifle sticking through the window.


Five people said they saw the rifle. Only Arnold Rowland said he saw a man with the rifle in the SW corner window. And only Kellerman said he heard JFK speak after being shot through the neck.
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Offline Alan Ford

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« Reply #269 on: February 15, 2023, 08:32:32 PM »
I am not asking anyone to believe the above conjecture has to be correct. Personally, I believe that Arnold Rowland just misremembered which floor and when he saw the elderly black man (aka BRW). However, if we entertain the idea that BRW was too scared to tell anyone that he was in the sniper’s nest before the assassination, then the above conjecture seems possible to me.

'If I can make Rowland's sighting somehow conformable to my beloved LHO-Acted-Alone theory, I just might be willing to stop attacking the integrity of him and his wife. All the "issues" I've been presenting as defeaters of his claim will suddenly evaporate into thin air'
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Re: When the SN was built
« Reply #270 on: February 15, 2023, 08:36:06 PM »
Just because Rowland doesn’t see a gunman at the SW window again after about 30 secs does not mean necessarily the gunman left the window and never returned. He might have just moved out of LOS by hiding in the corner just right of the SW window which placed him in total shade.

If this is the scenario, then the  bald elderly negro at the SE window was probably not BRW , but more likely a 2nd gunman, and was in process of preparing that window by placing a box and then lowering the window to the 15.5 inch height. He was 1st glimpsed at 12:15 and then at 12:20 by Rowland. At 12:25  when Rowland looked again, there’s no black man anymore.

Could this indicate that at 12:25  the box has been placed , the window lowered , and the black man is hiding or sitting on the floor and out of LOS?

Something like this, yes.

Plus NB!: that particular man was chosen to hang out at the SN window for a long period because of his ethnicity: he would be likely to attract notice. Cuban.

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Re: When the SN was built
« Reply #271 on: February 15, 2023, 08:42:16 PM »

Five people said they saw the rifle. Only Arnold Rowland said he saw a man with the rifle in the SW corner window. And only Kellerman said he heard JFK speak after being shot through the neck.

Only Mr. Charles Givens said he saw Mr. Oswald on the sixth floor after the men broke for lunch. And yet you show no interest in his criminal record; nor in ascertaining whether he mentioned to a single co-worker about this post-elevator-race sighting at any time prior to his WC testimony; nor in the fact that he had earlier gone on the record putting his sighting of Mr. Oswald prior to the elevator race. No-------------such niceties are of no interest to you. You trust Mr. Givens' account implicitly. And why? One reason: the Warren Report tells you to.

Meanwhile, it's open season on "Arnie" and "Babs". Why? One reason: you are mindlessly endorsing the Warren Commission's policy towards them
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