When the SN was built

[Alan J. Ford]

Amos Euins

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Addendum...

Mr. SPECTER. What did you see in the building?
Mr. EUINS. I seen a bald spot on this man’s head, trying to look out the
window. He had a bald spot on his head. I was looking at the bald spot.

[Zeon Mason]

Euins In the WC testimony was unable to declare that the complexion of the man was dark nor that the man was wearing a green and red plaid shirt

And time of Euins sighting was AS the shots were being fired at 12:30 approx.

Euins has no statements about seeing any person in that SE window at 12:15-12:29 leaning out or whom was a balding negro.

Eddie Piper was always photographed wearing glasses ( even outside also) which suggests he probably had to wear those glasses all the time which suggests he was probably nearsighted.

It’s doubtful therefore that Arnold Rowlands eagle eye would have failed to notice the rather large glasses on the face  of Piper if at the SE window at 12:15, because the purpose of Piper looking out that window wound  probably be to take a look at Dealey plaza activity, which would require him if he was nearsighted to keep his glasses on to have a detailed visual view.

Therefore Eddie Piper is an unlikely candidate.

None of the other black employees of the TSBD  were wearing a green and red plaid shirt so this leaves only the possibility of some nefarious other dark complected person not on the usual TSBD roster of employees.

So either this latter detail by Rowland is embellishment and fictional, or there was an unaccounted for nefarious elderly black man with red and green plaid shirt leaning out the SE TSBD 6th floor at 12:15 , a window which he would have to raise up to do so, and yet BRW somehow was completely unaware of the man from only approx 30 ft distance.

[Charles Collins]

Does the research community have any same day photos of the clothing, particularly the shirt Mr. Piper (Eddie) donned that afternoon.

If so it wouldn't surprise if he was, quote, "wearing a red and green plaid shirt", unquote. Mr. Piper certainly fits the "elderly" "balding" man of colour as well. Moreover, there was a young teenage eyewitness that afternoon (cannot recall his name at the moment, he can be seen riding on the back of a policeman's-motorcycle No. 99 in some photos) who also described an individual with balding hair in and/or near the sniper's nest. Sounds consistent with Mr. Rowlands observation as well.

In this photo, there is a resemblance of the man in the center with a newspaper folded up under his right arm, to another photo (the second one) that is purportedly of Eddie Piper.

[Alan J. Ford]

Euins In the WC testimony was unable to declare that the complexion of the man was dark nor that the man was wearing a green and red plaid shirt

And time of Euins sighting was AS the shots were being fired at 12:30 approx.

Euins has no statements about seeing any person in that SE window at 12:15-12:29 leaning out or whom was a balding negro.

Eddie Piper was always photographed wearing glasses ( even outside also) which suggests he probably had to wear those glasses all the time which suggests he was probably nearsighted.

It’s doubtful therefore that Arnold Rowlands eagle eye would have failed to notice the rather large glasses on the face  of Piper if at the SE window at 12:15, because the purpose of Piper looking out that window wound  probably be to take a look at Dealey plaza activity, which would require him if he was nearsighted to keep his glasses on to have a detailed visual view.

Therefore Eddie Piper is an unlikely candidate.

None of the other black employees of the TSBD  were wearing a green and red plaid shirt so this leaves only the possibility of some nefarious other dark complected person not on the usual TSBD roster of employees.

So either this latter detail by Rowland is embellishment and fictional, or there was an unaccounted for nefarious elderly black man with red and green plaid shirt leaning out the SE TSBD 6th floor at 12:15 , a window which he would have to raise up to do so, and yet BRW somehow was completely unaware of the man from only approx 30 ft distance.

Appreciate your astute assessment, Mr. Mason, and cheers to Mr. Collins as well for sharing a couple of photos (which both of them just so happen to buttress your keen observation that Mr. Piper indeed wore glasses).

Just a quick question that either of you and/or the exemplary research of someone like Mr. Iacoletti could bear out, but does the research community know for sure if Mr. Lovelady (Billy Nolan) could not have been at the sniper's window @ 12:15PM?

Could it have been possible that Mr. Rowland saw Mr. Lovelady?

[Alan Ford]

Could it have been possible that Mr. Rowland saw Mr. Lovelady?

No, the man described by Mr. Rowland can no more be Mr. Lovelady than he can be Mr. Bonnie Ray Williams. Mr. Piper? Possible, but only just.

In all likelihood, the Cuban-looking fellow seen at the SN window by Mr. Rowland was a member of the external floor-laying crew described by Mr. Harold Norman.

In which case, the reason a Cuban-looking fellow was making himself conspicuous there was so that folks would remember having seen a Cuban-looking fellow there. All part of the original (i.e. false-flag) plan: deliberate misses from that window, to be blamed on pro-Castroites

 

[Zeon Mason]

 Arnold Rowlands description of the SW window gunman wearing a  “white or “light blue shirt with a collar”, (= SOLID rather that pattern color)) is not consistent with either just a white T shirt only or if Oswald was wearing the reddish brown shirt with it.

Rowland also leaves the  choice of Latin or White to describe the complexion of the man.

Since I  have ruled out Oswald as the gunman, then my choice of whom the SW window gunman might have been is one of 2 Cuban  ex BOP / former Alpha 66 members ( a group that for some reason has an Oswald looking guy in one photo with some of them) .

A 2nd gunman might have been a mafia guy whom was seen in the Daltex  building , 3rd floor , carrying a briefcase on that floor several minutes before the JFK limo arrived. He had no alibi and had an arrest record which required him to meet  his parole officer at the time, but which meeting was not corroborated by the parole officer.

This option of 2 gunman  because of John Martino’s alleged death bed confession ( per his wife’s account) that he was part of a conspiracy to hire 2  gunman for $50k

An Alpha 66 member +  a Mafia member
Angry BOP survivor meets  Angry Mob contractor in Miami Fl. ( coincidentally where 1st plan to assassinate JFK failed , followed by 2nd attempt in Chicago , foiled by preempting one Thomas Arthur Vallee, another ex USMC combat veteran trained as a rifleman and of similar 5’9” lightweight body type as Oswald !?)

Coincidences much?

The coincidence of Loran Hall and William Seymour ( 2  ex BOP CIA assets) having statement of visiting an apartment and the Sylvia Odio statement of having seen Oswald in her apartment in the company of 2 “Mexicans” , she being a  member of an anti Castro political group that FBI man Guy Banister in New Orleans was keeping an eye on, whilst at the same time Oswald has an adjacent office to Banister, (with connecting door no less)…um..

About the Oswald similar looking guy in the Alpha 66 photo: I hesitate to say the man IS Oswald because he has the same oddly larger nose as that one photo of Oswald in the collage  collection of all Oswald photos together, ie: The SINGULARLY ANOMALOUS fat nosed Oswald.

I’m sorry  I’m unable to post images, but I’m certain many of the forum members here know exactly the photos or can find them and post them to support or refute the above hypothetical connection of persons.

And how this relates to the thread topic of When the SN was built, is that it follows from the question of why there was a gunman seen by Rowland at the SW window at 12:15 and only for a few seconds, and that the gunman was probably NOT an employee of TSBD. Rowlands “Latin” man with a light blue collar shirt coincides with images of Loran Hall, William Seymour wearing light solid color  shirts with collars.

This is NOT , however any declaration that Hall or Seymour did the job, but to illustrate the coincidences here that point to the Alpha 66 group of which both of them allegedly were members.  Hall actually has WC testimony implying that there was some attempt to recruit him for the job but he declined.

The SW window gunman seems to have not been  familiar with where some employees were going at 12:00 and erroneously presumed the 6th floor would be clear. The gunman arrived perhaps dressed like one of the floor laying crew (light blue shirt w/collar?) that had been contracted by Truly, only this particular “contractor” had other mission to accomplish. Which he was planning to do as a quick 1shot kill from SW 6th floor window, then scoot, beginning his entrance into TSBD taking advantage possibly of the ambulance distraction.

Thus being thwarted by presence of BRW, this (hypothetical) professional Alpha 66 gunman ADAPTED and STAYED on the 6th floor waiting for BRW to leave and as BRW left by 12:24, it fits the timeline of Box In the SE Window in the Bronson film at 12:25 but NOT a box in the window any earlier than that, otherwise Arnold Rowland would have likely seen that detail at 12:15.

And Oswald seen by Carolyn Arnold 12:15-12:17 SEATED in the 2nd floor lunchroom is fair support for the idea of Oswald NOT having been the SW gunman because there’s no way he would know when exactly to go back up, not knowing if BRW has left the floor, nor knowing when /if the JFK had arrived.

[Alan Ford]

The SW window gunman seems to have not been  familiar with where some employees were going at 12:00 and erroneously presumed the 6th floor would be clear. The gunman arrived perhaps dressed like one of the floor laying crew (light blue shirt w/collar?) that had been contracted by Truly, only this particular “contractor” had other mission to accomplish. Which he was planning to do as a quick 1shot kill from SW 6th floor window, then scoot, beginning his entrance into TSBD taking advantage possibly of the ambulance distraction.

Thus being thwarted by presence of BRW, [...]

Apologies for any confusion my last post may have caused, Mr. Mason----------------the Cuban-looking man I was referring to was the dark-complected, v. bald, middle-aged man in plaid shirt seen by Mr. Rowland hanging out at the SN window. Mr. Rowland's description is not (to put it mildly!) compatible with the appearance of Mr. Bonnie Ray Williams.

As for the SN preparation, Mr. Oswald may very well have helped prepare it. His (bogus) FPCC background almost certainly meant that the original (false-flag) plan included (with his consent) his being identified after the event as a member of the pro-Castro team ostensibly behind the (non-fatal) incident---------------though, obviously, he was at no point being set up for having fired any shots himself. He had other business downstairs @ 12:30pm.

'LHO as sixth-floor shooter' was no more than a wild and absurd fiction invented by the cover-up authorities after the assassination

 

[Zeon Mason]

It almost appears as though there was not a pre planned set up of Oswald because the SE window gunman apparently did not wear a mask or something to alter his face and complexion. And if he was the same person whom Rowland saw at 12:15 at the SW window, he’s taking some big risk of being photographed.

And allowing the patsy to be freely roaming and not prevent him from being on the steps seems unlikely imo.

Problem always comes back to that  MC rifle and when and how it was planted and why it was it planted with an obviously misaligned scope and without powder residue in the barrel, chamber and breech. A scope which it seems unlikely to have ever been in alignment because the mount itself seems to have been incorrectly aligned.

This suggests a rifle hastily taken from Oswalds boarding room or from Paines garage. A rifle which had been ordered  WITHOUT a scope mounted , because if the mount had been affixed by a competent gunsmith (alleged)then the mount would not have ever required any shims to align the scope. The scope may have been sent as separate item NOT mounted , in the same package and Oswald screwed the mount into the rifle stock himself using the Paines garage which happened to coincidentally have a drill press. He might have not gotten it quite right and resorted to using shims OR he PURPOSELY meant to use shims which he could also remove as an insurance policy should someone steal the rifle and use it trying to frame him.

Note: An LN argument presents itself here as well that if the above is possible then it’s possible Oswald could have removed the shims himself and left the rifle purposely to make it appear he was  being set up. ( in line with some vision that if he got caught he could argue the set up defense.) But since the MC rifle found  apparently had no signs of having been fired that day ( no odor , no residue in rifle grooves) then Oswald would have  had to bring TWO rifles to the TSBD 6th floor, leaving the unfired MC rifle as the set up rifle while using and escaping with , whatever rifle he actually fired.

Now Mr Buglio Mytton may be able to refute this idea with some information that I’ve forgotten about so I will wait to see if he does so  before continuing on with a post planted rifle theory.

Otherwise it’s a preplanted theory like Walt Cakebreads which seems a problem also why setting up the patsy this way, unless they stole  the rifle so late on the night of Nov 21/63 that they didn’t have time to shoot a few rounds , nor check the scope alignment and zero.