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Online Richard Smith

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Re: Where have we seen this before?
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2023, 02:57:34 PM »
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That's a meaningless statement as you clearly are not aware of a great many things. That's what living in the MAGA bubble does to you.

Not sure what you are rambling about here.  You appeared to be concerned with "banned" books in the US.  A demonstrably false talking point.  You also have espoused theories that involve the FBI fabricating evidence in the assassination of JFK.  But suddenly you are not interested in the FBI suppressing information in a recent terrorist attack.  Nothing to see there.  It is meaningless and apparently has something to do with Trump?  LOL.  You are just a neutral arbiter of the facts with no agenda.  Right? 

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Re: Where have we seen this before?
« Reply #16 on: April 19, 2023, 02:57:34 PM »


Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Where have we seen this before?
« Reply #17 on: April 19, 2023, 08:18:42 PM »
Not sure what you are rambling about here.  You appeared to be concerned with "banned" books in the US.  A demonstrably false talking point.  You also have espoused theories that involve the FBI fabricating evidence in the assassination of JFK.  But suddenly you are not interested in the FBI suppressing information in a recent terrorist attack.  Nothing to see there.  It is meaningless and apparently has something to do with Trump?  LOL.  You are just a neutral arbiter of the facts with no agenda.  Right?

Not sure what you are rambling about here. 

Of course you don't, but for a clueless individual that's normal...

You appeared to be concerned with "banned" books in the US.  A demonstrably false talking point.  You also have espoused theories that involve the FBI fabricating evidence in the assassination of JFK.  But suddenly you are not interested in the FBI suppressing information in a recent terrorist attack.

Just how pathetic can your "reasoning" get?

Banning books in the US (or anywhere else for that matter) is indeed a problem, but the manifest of some idiot killer isn't a book and it isn't banned. It's evidence and the FBI will have it's reasons for not releasing that information at this time, no matter how desperately you want to get your hands on it.

It is meaningless and apparently has something to do with Trump?

It only has to do with Trump in as much as that you must be unaware of many things to support that con man.

You are just a neutral arbiter of the facts with no agenda.  Right?

Did I say that?

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Re: Where have we seen this before?
« Reply #18 on: April 19, 2023, 10:05:35 PM »
And there you have it.  The totalitarian mantra.  Parents should keep quiet and just let the schools (that are paid for by the parents) decide what their children learn even if inappropriate.  Their children should be indoctrinated by the powers in control because any dissenter from the party line is a dangerous "nut."  Lenin and Hitler would agree with that proposition.  That's how dictatorships maintain power.  American schools have been taken over by individuals who do not represent the views of most of their constituents.  When this happens in a democracy, the affected individuals have every right to express their concerns and seek change.  It is the direct opposite of what happened in Nazi Germany.  In fact, it is the fundamental basis of a democracy.   And every book remains available to any person who wishes to read it. There are no books banned by the government or anyone else.  That is myth to fit a desired narrative.


The Nazi party from "Europe" where Martin claims to live?  The place that originated fascism and the inquisition among endless other atrocities. No book is banned in the US. Every book written in history is available.   Every single one.  This is some kind of fake talking point to deflect from the real disasters unfolding under Ukraine Joe.   Some parents don't want their children to read pornography in school.  Big deal.   If other parents want their kids to read some sexually explicit material at a young age, they are free to buy any book they desire.   To compare that situation to the Nazis is not only idiotic but insulting to the many real victims of the Nazis.  You should be embarrassed and ashamed to peddle such nonsense.


Maybe define what you mean by "banning" a book.  You appear to have some bizarre subjective interpretation to fit your desired narrative.  For example, do you think every school library must make available every book written?  And if they fail to do so a book is somehow considered "banned"?  You do realize that Americans can literally buy any book ever written via Amazon and other online sources. Not a single book in the US is banned. Schools with the input of parents can make decisions on their own curriculum including the books that are available from the school library.  Ironically, what you are suggesting is uncontested governmental control without the input of citizens.  Old Joe and his clown show will decide for parents what their children read.  That sounds more like the totalitarian Nazi form of government than what you are raving about.

Wrong again.

Some of these books have been available for decades and now these right wing fascists are banning books.

These right wing fascists are trying to erase the LGBTQ community.

Authors Of Banned Books Are Fed Up – and Fighting Back
https://www.npr.org/2023/04/05/1168219569/authors-of-banned-books-are-fed-up-and-fighting-back

THESE 176 BOOKS WERE BANNED IN DUVAL COUNTY, FLORIDA
https://pen.org/banned-books-florida/

‘Don’t Say Gay’ expansion requested by DeSantis approved
https://apnews.com/article/desantis-florida-dont-say-gay-ban-684ed25a303f83208a89c556543183cb

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Re: Where have we seen this before?
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Re: Where have we seen this before?
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2023, 06:11:59 PM »


Wrong again.

Some of these books have been available for decades and now these right wing fascists are banning books.

These right wing fascists are trying to erase the LGBTQ community.

Authors Of Banned Books Are Fed Up – and Fighting Back
https://www.npr.org/2023/04/05/1168219569/authors-of-banned-books-are-fed-up-and-fighting-back

THESE 176 BOOKS WERE BANNED IN DUVAL COUNTY, FLORIDA
https://pen.org/banned-books-florida/

‘Don’t Say Gay’ expansion requested by DeSantis approved
https://apnews.com/article/desantis-florida-dont-say-gay-ban-684ed25a303f83208a89c556543183cb

A demonstrably false talking point.  Not every book ever written can be kept in a school or library.  And some books are not age appropriate for school children.  No reasonable person would take issue with that conclusion.  EVERY book ever written in human history is available to the parents of any child who wishes to buy it.  Every single book.  No book is banned in the US.   The only writing that I know of that is currently banned from the public is the manifesto of the radical leftist terrorist who attacked a religious school.  It is has been illegally suppressed by the FBI from the public.   No one has access to it.  That is what is meant by a "banned" book. 

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Re: Where have we seen this before?
« Reply #20 on: April 20, 2023, 07:36:01 PM »
A demonstrably false talking point.  Not every book ever written can be kept in a school or library.  And some books are not age appropriate for school children.  No reasonable person would take issue with that conclusion.  EVERY book ever written in human history is available to the parents of any child who wishes to buy it.  Every single book.  No book is banned in the US.   The only writing that I know of that is currently banned from the public is the manifesto of the radical leftist terrorist who attacked a religious school.  It is has been illegally suppressed by the FBI from the public.   No one has access to it.  That is what is meant by a "banned" book.

Calling a manifesto of a terrorist (which is evidence, btw) a book is like calling you intelligent.

No one has access to it.  That is what is meant by a "banned" book.

Wrong again. It isn't a book and hasn't been published, which is why no one has access to it. That, and the fact of course, that the FBI is not in the habit of releasing a piece of evidence to idiots who claim it's a banned book!

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Re: Where have we seen this before?
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Re: Where have we seen this before?
« Reply #21 on: April 21, 2023, 03:55:18 AM »
Right wing fascists havs already banned interstate travel, books, and now they are going after our libraries.

Right wingers claim to be "champions of the First Amendment" and against censorship, but they are taking away our First Amendment rights and implementing censorship laws.   

Right wingers want to force people to live under their phony "Christian" beliefs.

We are a nation that has a separation of church and state, but radical right wingers dismiss what our founding fathers established our nation under and are now forcing their radical religious beliefs on Americans under their minority rule.

Right wing religious fanatics are forcing women, including young girls, to give birth to their rapists babies. In Idaho, radical right wingers passed a law prohibiting women from leaving to go to another state to seek an abortion. This is total Nazi fascism by banning women from traveling, holding women hostage in Idaho, and preventing them from freely crossing stateline.           

Radical right wingers don't like the fact that the history of slavery and the civil rights movement is being discussed in our schools which has always been part of the school curriculum. Right wingers call it "Critical Race Theory" and are banning the subjects and books on civil rights from schools because of their obvious racism trying to erase a significant period in American history.

Radical right wingers want to throw teachers in jail that teach on those subjects.

Radical right wingers are discriminating and attacking the LGBTQ community daily trying to erase them from society.

This is what happens in a fascist society and Republicans are pushing their fascism on the overwhelming majority of Americans that do not support it.

This is not the America that we know. It's Republican fascism.


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Missouri Republicans threaten to defund public libraries in stunning move over book bans

Library groups and civil rights organisations say the latest proposal is in retaliation for a lawsuit over a recently enacted state law that threatens educators with criminal punishment
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/missouri-republicans-defund-libraries-b2318645.html

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Re: Where have we seen this before?
« Reply #22 on: April 21, 2023, 01:26:24 PM »
Calling a manifesto of a terrorist (which is evidence, btw) a book is like calling you intelligent.

No one has access to it.  That is what is meant by a "banned" book.

Wrong again. It isn't a book and hasn't been published, which is why no one has access to it. That, and the fact of course, that the FBI is not in the habit of releasing a piece of evidence to idiots who claim it's a banned book!

LOL.  This is comedy gold.  Even from you.  It has to be published but it can't be published because the FBI has suppressed it !!!!!  HA HA HA  So it is not banned.  But because a school decides that a book is not age appropriate it is banned EVEN though it can be freely bought by anyone.  Of course the point isn't whether a book has a nice cover, but whether the content is available to the public.  If the government suppresses the content, it is banned.

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Re: Where have we seen this before?
« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2023, 01:42:44 PM »
Right wing fascists havs already banned interstate travel, books, and now they are going after our libraries.



Completely false.  No one has banned interstate travel.  That is bizarre.  Do you think any sane person believes that interstate travel has been banned in the US?  Ukraine Joe doesn't even enforce the international boundaries but has allowed millions to cross into the US illegally and distributed them around the country like a tourist service in the biggest drug and sex trafficking operation in history.  There are laws that do preclude crossing state lines in the commission of a crime.  That doesn't mean anyone is precluded from crossing a state line, however. 

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Re: Where have we seen this before?
« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2023, 01:42:44 PM »