Who Killed J.D. Tippit?

[Richard Smith]

That sums it up perfectly, if the Hidell wallet was at the Tippit crime scene Barrett and/or Westbrook would have put it in their reports but neither did simply because the Hidell wallet was never there.
And as has been pointed out numerous times, why supress the Wallet that links Oswald with the Tippit murder, I have yet to see a reasonable explanation that explains why.
If indeed there was a provable Hidell wallet at the Tippit crime scene, I would be all over it because I don't find it odd that Oswald would have two wallets for two identifications.
A decoy wallet, muggers wallet or a drop wallet isn't exactly a new concept.
Anyway I've wasted too much time with this silly theory that doesn't even pass the most basic sniff test, so unless someone comes up with something new I'm outta here!

JohnM

Yes, and a wallet found at the crime scene would have significantly more incriminatory value than a wallet taken from a suspect.  The recovery of the wallet from the crime scene would have significant evidentiary value in itself.  That would have been a fact that they would have reported and broadcast to the world.

[Martin Weidmann]

Yes, and a wallet found at the crime scene would have significantly more incriminatory value than a wallet taken from a suspect.  The recovery of the wallet from the crime scene would have significant evidentiary value in itself.  That would have been a fact that they would have reported and broadcast to the world.

a wallet found at the crime scene would have significantly more incriminatory value than a wallet taken from a suspect.

Why? Does such a wallet somehow prove that the owner of that wallet shot Tippit or was even at the scene himself?

The real purpose of a wallet being dropped at the Tippit scene (if that's what happened) is to provide a link between Oswald and Hidell and the ordering of the revolver and the rifle. It doesn't matter where the Hidell ID was found, as long as it was indeed found.

[Bill Brown]

Yes, I agree. Westbrook is a highly dubious individual, IMO. He was not only involved in the wallet issue, but also the white/gray jacket farce.

So, you believe that Barrett was part of the investigation, despite the fact that the FBI had no jurisdiction? I'm not dismissing anything. You expect that Barrett wrote a report and it should have included the question being asked? Really? Have you read Barrett's report on what happened at the Tippit crime scene?

It was more than being asked only "a simple question".

Asking somebody if he knows a couple of names is not "a simple question"? Why?

I think you're dismissing the point that Barrett would have mentioned such an important item in his report.

So, in your opinion, Barrett, an observer, should have been so much aware it was an important item that he would have put it in his report? But the same doesn't apply to Bentley, Hill, Carroll and Westbrook, who were actually involved in the investigation?

Nice assumptions. First you assume that Barrett had reason to report about what happened at the Tippit scene and secondly you assume that Barrett knew about Oswald's name and that he was aware of the fact that Hidell was a fake alias used by Oswald. Thirdly, you assume that Barrett could have stated what the content of the wallet was, when in fact he never held it or examined it.

All he really knew was (1) there was a wallet and (2) Westbrook asked him if he knew a guy named Oswald or a guy named Hidell. And you expect him to write this in a report?

Barrett writes his report (which he did do)

I have actually never seen Barrett's report for 11/22/63. Can you point me to where I can find it?

I have actually never seen Barrett's report for 11/22/63. Can you point me to where I can find it?

I'll try to find it.

[Martin Weidmann]

I'll try to find it.

Thanks, I'll keep looking as well

[Charles Collins]

According to James Hosty, on page 67 of his book “Assignment Oswald”, an ID with the name A.J. Hidell was found in LHO’s wallet when he was arrested in New Orleans in 1963. Is there any supporting evidence of this in the files of either the New Orleans Police Department or the FBI?


When Quigley sat down across from Lee, Oswald made a number of self-serving statements about his activities with the Fair Play for Cuba Committee, telling Quigley it was his patriotic duty as an American to distribute the flyers because Americans needed to back off Cuba. It soon became apparent to Quigley that Oswald was holding back: he refused to answer many of Quigley’s questions about the pro-Castro committee, and was increasingly evasive about the identification found in his wallet for one A. J. Hidell. Because Quigley was unfamiliar with Oswald, the interview was completely unproductive. The following week, when he wrote up his report, he noticed that his office had an active file on Lee Oswald, so he routed his report to that file.

If there is supporting evidence that LHO was carrying an A.J. Hidell I.D in his wallet when he was arrested in New Orleans, I think that it would tend to support the DPD officers’ testimony that LHO was carrying one in his wallet when he was arrested in Dallas on 11/22/63.

[Bill Brown]

Thanks, I'll keep looking as well

On a tip from Dale Myers...
CD 5, pages 84-85.  Try the Mary Ferrell site.

[Martin Weidmann]

On a tip from Dale Myers...
CD 5, pages 84-85.  Try the Mary Ferrell site.

Found it. He doesn't go into great detail beyond his movements and observations.

I found something else as well; in a memo written to Mr. Conrad and several other high ranking FBI officials, W.D. Griffith writes that ASAC Dallas Kyle G. Clark has learned from the DPD that they forgot to photograph Oswald's wallet and it's content. They (the DPD) request that they be furnished with photographs of those items.

According to the memo, the wallet contained photographs of Oswald, his wife and a baby, as well as various Civil Service, Social Security and other identification cards. What isn't mentioned is a fake Hidell ID card.

There is a photograph of the photographs and ID cards that were in the wallet;



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