Who Killed J.D. Tippit?

[John Iacoletti]

Either Oswald said it or all the people I quoted lied, the typical CT defence.

All what people? You mean Leavelle, who wasn’t even at the interrogations?

[John Mytton]

Are any of these claims — even if true — supposed to be evidence of murder?

The fact that Oswald lied constantly about the rifle during his interrogations is powerful evidence of his innocence?

JohnM

[John Iacoletti]

The negatives used to manufacture the Hidell ID was found within Oswald's possessions so either Oswald made it or it was planted, the typical CT defence.

A) How did you determine what things at the Paine house were “Oswald’s possessions”?

B) Since when does possessing something mean that you manufactured it anyway?

C) You can’t even prove that ID was made with those negatives. They don’t say Hidell.

[John Mytton]

All what people? You mean Leavelle, who wasn’t even at the interrogations?

Mr. LEAVELLE. Since you mentioned it, I do remember them talking to him about the New Orleans box and asking him about this other name, this----
Mr. BALL. Alek Hidell?
Mr. LEAVELLE. Yes; and he asked him if he knew Alek Hidell; said he didn't know if he ever heard of the name. He never heard of that and asked him several questions along that line and then after he had denied all knowledge of Alek Hidell, Mr. Kelley asked him, said "Well, isn't it a fact when you were arrested you had an identification card with his name on it in your possession." He kind of grunted, said "Yes, that's right" and he said "How do you explain that?" And, as best my knowledge. he said "I don't explain it."

JohnM

[John Iacoletti]

The fact that Oswald lied constantly about the rifle during his interrogations is powerful evidence of his innocence?

“Lie” defined as “ ‘Mytton’ doesn’t believe it’s true”.

[John Iacoletti]

Nothing about this in Kelley’s report.

[Martin Weidmann]

What is your evidence of Oswald “manufacturing” anything?

He hasn't got any, as per usual.

What I find amazing is that clowns like Mytton think that Oswald would even (1) manufacture such a card, (2) leave the evidence of making the card where it can easily be found and then (3) walk around with a card with his photo on it and a name that would tie him to the ordering of the rifle and the revolver. Just how completely out of this world stupid is this?

The irony is that Oswald never needed to manufacture a fake Hidell ID in the first place, because (1) he did not have to supply identification when he allegedly ordered the rifle and the revolver and (2) the entire investigation never turned up an occassion where Oswald actually used that Hidell ID, which means (3) there would be no benefit for him to walk around with an ID that is so obviously faked that it would serve no purpose whatsoever to begin with.

None of that matters to clowns like superficial Mytton.

To them it's entirely "logical" that a guy who just killed the President (allegedly), leaves the rifle and the shells at the crime scene, then draws attention to himself by leaving to TSBD quickly (so he can't be at the line up of all the staff members), then ensures that people notice him as he makes his way to the rooming house, first by bus (asking for the transfer) and then by taxi (offering it to a woman). He then, supposedly, runs like mad to a nowhere place like 10th street where he allegedly kills a police officer for no apparent reason (drawing even more attention to himself) and again leaving shells at the scene of the crime. Then when he is finally arrested he carries a fake ID which links him to the ordering of the rifle and revolver. It is hard to figure out what more Oswald could have done to draw attention to himself. In the real world that would be a red flag but for types like Mytton and Smith it's seems to be quite normal behavior for a guy who allegedly just killed two people.

[John Mytton]

The irony is that Oswald never needed to manufacture a fake Hidell ID in the first place, because (1) he did not have to supply identification when he allegedly ordered the rifle and the revolver and (2) the entire investigation never turned up an occassion where Oswald actually used that Hidell ID, which means (3) there would be no benefit for him to walk around with an ID that is so obviously faked that it would serve no purpose whatsoever to begin with.

Either Oswald manufactured and carried the Hidell Identification or are you going to throw more faked evidence, planted evidence and lying officials onto your ever growing increasingly complex defence mountain?

And just like I said, whenever you can't explain the evidence out comes the they all lied and all the evidence against Oswald is faked. But Weidmann when are you going to actually prove any of your allegations because otherwise your opinion about what you think should happen and your vivid imagination is just paranoid rubbish which proves nothing!

JohnM