Who Killed J.D. Tippit?

[John Iacoletti]

It doesn't matter how much evidence is presented, you will continue your game of asking for evidence which you know doesn't exist and then claim some sort of hollow victory, for instance your reason this time is that the writing on the order wasn't authenticated, give me a break.

And you will continue to play the game of pretending that the evidence that does exist is “rock solid” and conclusive. And around we go.

It is indeed pointless to try to have a serious discussion with a faith-based ideologue.

[John Iacoletti]

I certainly did Martin but using the above example, if a direct print out from Kleins very own Microfilm business records isn't absolute Rock Solid evidence then there is nothing that will convince the hardcore conspiracy theorist.

You don’t know it’s a “direct printout” from the “missing” microfilm. And you don’t know if it is even consistent with Klein’s’ other “business records”. That’s the only one available to look at.

No offence, but all you are doing is regurgitating the exact same arguments that you were making a decade ago.

[John Iacoletti]

Yet Kleins advertised the 40 inch rifle with a scope for many months? Go figure!

Didn’t you just get done trying to argue that Klein’s didn’t care about the accuracy of their advertisements? Talk about trying to have it both ways.

[John Iacoletti]

Suggesting that the fake ID could possibly have been planted, or that the Klein’s documentation could possibly have been doctored, etc. is pure speculation.

Suggesting that Oswald carried a Hidell ID on his person when there is no contemporary record of it, or suggesting that the Klein’s documentation proves that CE139 was shipped to and picked up by Lee Oswald is pure speculation.

[Charles Collins]

Pure speculation, aka: purely speculation, aka: only speculation is speculation without any evidence whatsoever. After 59+ years, there isn’t a single speck of evidence that suggests that the fake ID was planted, or that the Klein documentation was altered.

[John Iacoletti]

Sorry, but it’s your responsibility to authenticate evidence that you are relying on to form your conclusions. You don’t just get to assume it’s authentic until proven otherwise. Anybody can claim they found anything.

[John Mytton]

Pure speculation, aka: purely speculation, aka: only speculation is speculation without any evidence whatsoever. After 59+ years, there isn’t a single speck of evidence that suggests that the fake ID was planted, or that the Klein documentation was altered.

Of course again you are right, notice how "John" is desperately trying to separate each piece of evidence in his woeful efforts to defend Oswald. But when the totality of the evidence is examined we must accept that it was either the singular Oswald or we have a tsunami of deception, lies and fakery on a scale of untold magnitude.

It was either Oswald or;

The Hidell ID was manufactured by conspirators
The Hidell ID was planted by the Police
The Hidell ID negatives were manufactured by conspirators
The Hidell ID negatives were planted by conspirators in the Paine residence
The Hidell name was inserted by conspirators into the New Orleans post box application records.
The Hidell name was connected To Oswald's New Orleans Chapter of the Fair Play for Cuba Committee by conspirators.
The Hidell name was used as The "Chapter President" of Oswald's made up Cuba Committee by conspirators.
The Hidell name was forged by conspirators onto Oswald's "Fair Play for Cuba" leaflets
The Hidell name was written on membership cards by conspirators other than Marina, who must have lied.
The Hidell name was a play on "Fidel" according to Marina who must have lied
The Hidell name was forged onto the Kliens coupon
The Hidell Kleins coupon addressed to Oswald was forged onto the Kliens microfilm
The Hidell name was forged onto the Kleins envelope
The Hidell Kleins Envelope addressed to Oswald was forged onto the Kleins microfilm
The Hidell rifle was never sent to Oswald's PO box
The Hidell newly manufactured microfilm was substituted at some point with Kleins business records microfilm.
The Hidell ID was admitted by Oswald or Police lied
The Hidell ID was admitted by Oswald or a Postal official lied
The Hidell ID was asked of Oswald or an FBI agent lied
The Hidell name was forged onto Oswald Job applications as a reference
The Hidell rifle was photographed with Oswald by either forgery or trickery
The Hidell rifle was planted on the 6th floor of Oswald's work by conspirators
The Hidell revolver coupon was forged by conspirators
The Hidell name was forged onto the Seaport-Traders paperwork
The Hidell revolver was lied about by the Police
The Hidell revolver was substituted by Police
And on and on it goes!

See Charles, this starts to get real messy and is the reason that "John" won't allow a collective examination of the evidence because it just makes him come across as just another wishful thinking Conspiracy Theorist yet he surreptitiously attempts to distance himself from their community? Bizarre!

JohnM

[Charles Collins]

Anybody can try to create doubt about authenticated evidence. Hence the ridiculous rabbit holes that the nay-sayers have been trying to lead people down for 59+ years. However, in a court of law, trying to create doubt about the admitted evidence based purely on speculation isn’t allowed. There has to be an allegation as to the alleged issue with the evidence and some authenticated evidence to support that allegation. The rules in place in the courts are there to try to ensure that a fair trial takes place. If we want to have a fair and unbiased opinion as to what happened on 11/22/63, I suggest that we at least consider those courthouse rules when forming our opinions.