Time for Truth

[Alan Ford]

The simplest solution would be that he took it off inside the Texas Theatre and it was left there.

What evidence is there for this? There is none. You're just making stuff up.

Where do you think the dark gray jacket Mrs. Roberts saw ended up, Mr. O'Meara?

[Dan O'meara]

Where do you think the dark gray jacket Mrs. Roberts saw ended up, Mr. O'Meara?

So you're just going to side-step Brewer's testimony because it blows away you're made up nonsense.

Oswald left the rooming house with a jacket on and wasn't wearing it before he went into the Texas Theater.
According to Marina's testimony, the woman who washed his clothes including his jackets, Oswald had two jackets.
One jacket was a dark colour and one was a light colour.

Whether or not it was the dark or light coloured jacket, Oswald "lost" it somewhere between the rooming house and Brewer's shop.
How did Oswald "lose" his jacket on the way to the Texas Theater?

[John Iacoletti]

if he was zipping it up, he was wearing a jacket.
Where has that jacket gone?
It doesn't matter if it was light, dark or pastel green with maroon stripes.
Where has the jacket gone that he left the rooming house wearing?

Unanswerable, and irrelevant because not only can the premise not be proven correct, but knowing the answer to that question wouldn’t prove anything one way or the other anyway.

[Alan Ford]

Oswald left the rooming house with a jacket on

But you only believe that because Mrs. Roberts says so-----------the same Mrs. Roberts whose accompanying recollection about the jacket you completely dismiss.

You're banking the house on a witness you yourself find very unreliable. Not a coherent approach, I'm afraid!

[Zeon Mason]

Brewer did not see Oswald with a jacket on.
If Oswald took off a jacket and left it in the theater , then that would have to  be before Oswald entered Brewers store.

Butch  Burroughs thought he saw Oswald buying popcorn about 1:07 pm.

Maybe Burroughs was wrong about the time because it’s not enough  time  for Oswald to get from boarding house leaving at 1:04 and make it to the theater in just 3 minutes

If Burroughs may be a questionable witness then the next time Oswald was seen in the theater is supposedly by Jack White who saw Oswald seated about 1:20 pm

15 minutes is probably  enough time to walk from the boarding house to the theater.

So if someone can find a statement from Jack White that Oswald was wearing a jacket at 1:20 pm then it’s possible Oswald could have taken off the jacket in the theater , left it there while he went for  a quick look at some shoes at Brewers store for a few minutes, then returned and because Oswald had already bought a ticket from Julia Postal earlier, just went past the ticket booth without stopping.

Brewer seeing that would thus think Oswald had not paid for a ticket.

[John Mytton]

Unanswerable, and irrelevant because not only can the premise not be proven correct, but knowing the answer to that question wouldn’t prove anything one way or the other anyway.

It proves a lot John.

Oswald was seen zipping up his jacket as he left the rooming house.
A short distance away he was seen at the Tippit crime scene killing Tippit with a gun and wearing a jacket.
Oswald who was trying to alter his appearance after killing Tippit was seen entering a car park where his jacket was found.
Oswald was seen not wearing a jacket while passing Johnny Brewer and at the front of the Texas Theater Oswald was not wearing his jacket.
Oswald was arrested with the same gun which exclusively matched the shells Oswald was seen discarding at the Tippit crime scene.

Some of the jacket eyewitnesses at the Tippit crime scene who positively identified Oswald

Mr. BENAVIDES - I would say he was about your size, and he had a light-beige jacket, and was lightweight.
Mr. BELIN - Did it have buttons or a zipper, or do you remember?
Mr. BENAVIDES - It seemed like it was a zipper-type jacket.

Mr. BALL. What did you tell them you saw?
Mr. CALLAWAY. I told them he had some dark trousers and a light tannish gray windbreaker jacket, and I told him that he was fair complexion, dark hair.

Mr. BALL. What kind of a jacket, what general color of jacket?
Mrs. MARKHAM. It was a short jacket open in the front, kind of a grayish tan.

Mr. BELIN. Was the jacket open or closed up?
Mrs. DAVIS. It was open.

Mrs. MARY BROCK, 4310 Utah, Dallas, Texas, advised that on the afternoon of November 22, 1963, she was at the Ballew Texaco Service Station located in the 600 block of Jefferson Street, Dallas, Texas. She advised that at approximately 1:30 PM a white male described as approximately 30 years of age; 5 feet, 10 inches; light—colored complexion, wearing light clothing, came past her walking at a fast pace, wearing a light—colored jacket and with his hands in his pockets.

Mr. BELIN. Let me ask you this now. When you first saw this man, had the police car stopped or not?
Mr. SCOGGINS. Yes; he stopped. When I saw he stopped, then I looked to see why he was stopping, you see, and I saw this man with a light-colored jacket on.

Mr. BALL. How was this man dressed that had the pistol in his hand?
Mr. GUINYARD. He had on a pair of black britches and a brown shirt and a lithe sort of light-gray-looking jacket.
Mr. BALL. A gray jacket.
Mr. GUINYARD. Yes; a light gray jacket and a white T-shirt.

Oswald's jacket in the carpark.







The DP initials on Oswald's jacket



Oswald without his jacket, after punching McDonald and being arrested at the Texas Theatre.



JohnM

[Richard Smith]

I've seen the jacket.  It is a nondescript color that could be characterized in different ways depending on the circumstances.  Grasping at straws to avoid the obvious conclusion that Oswald ditched the jacket to change his appearance after murdering Tippit is weak sauce.

[Dan O'meara]

But you only believe that because Mrs. Roberts says so-----------the same Mrs. Roberts whose accompanying recollection about the jacket you completely dismiss.

You're banking the house on a witness you yourself find very unreliable. Not a coherent approach, I'm afraid!

 

So, now you don't think Oswald was even wearing a jacket when he left the rooming house!
You think Roberts might have been wrong about that even though it's you who is relying on her testimony concerning a dark coloured jacket to try and make some kind of point.
But when you're asked a simple question - how did Oswald "lose" this jacket between the rooming house and the Texas Theater? - you find you have no coherent answer.
So now you turn on the sole witness you've based you're argument on!