"her words not mine"
And my point is that you are saying something different from what Roberts is saying.
You are saying that after Oswald left the house, Roberts started watching TV and after a while she decided to look out of the window;
Here's what you actually posted:
oswald emerges from his room and leaves . she watches tv for a spell longer . then apparently was curious and got up and went to her window and sees oswald still outside by the bus stop
But that's not what Roberts says.
She states that after Oswald left the house she looked out of the window.
She does not say she went back to watching the TV and then decided to look out of the window.
That is something you've made up.
It's important that these details are correct when establishing what happened.
she cant have watched news of the assassination before the news cut in . so we know it had just turned 1pm .
This is completely incorrect.
You appear to be saying that the news of JFK's shooting first appeared on the 1PM news program. You are wrong.
The Roberts story is that she was at the rooming house and a friend of hers rang up to tell her that JFK had been shot and to turn on the TV.
Roberts turns on the TV and a program called "As The World Turns" is on [from 12:30pm to 1pm]
She watches this for a few minutes and a "Special Bulletin" comes on regarding the shooting of JFK.
There is something wrong with the TV and Roberts is trying to fix it, so she can find out about Kennedy and that's when Oswald comes in.
There are three "Special Bulletins" played while "As The World Turns" is on.
The first around 12:40pm
The second around 12:43pm
The third around 12:48pm.
Its is this third bulletin that comes on while she is watching "As The World Turns" [this program resumed playing after the second bulletin]
It can be assumed that her friend had seen one or both of the earlier bulletins then gave Roberts a call.
So it is any time after 12:48pm that Roberts could be referring to as the time when Oswald comes in.
It seems almost certain that it is before 1pm as she appears to be watching the third bulletin when Oswald comes in and not the 1pm News.
She makes no mention of the 1pm News program starting [which it does after the third bulletin].
Here is the actual channel Roberts was watching that day:
ok lets put this to bed . firstly ive made nothing up , that is akin to calling me a liar , if you wish to assert i am a liar atleast be up front about it . everything i said is based upon the time it took to leave the depository , get on and then off a bus , and then walk and get a cab , and the cab journey after that , and also based on warren commission time trials , and based on statements made by roberts .yes there is a certain level of assumption here , as there is in many aspects of this case , things we simply cant know exactingly . you are also using a degree of assumption , because you dont know everything precisely either . in addition where i am atleast making honest efforts to try and determine what and when things happened as accurately as is humanly possible , i have zero agenda here . you on the other hand have an agenda . which is you seek to find ways to give oswald more time , because you know without that time what you would claim he did is made extremely difficult if not outright impossible .
lets re cap here a bit because you are claiming i am saying things that roberts did not , which is false .
you asked the following question , the insinuation being that roberts did not watch tv at all BEFORE LOOKING OUT THE WINDOW .
"Where does it state that Roberts watched TV before looking out of her window?" dan omeara
"at approximately 1 :OO pm I was sitting in the
living room watching television about the President’s assassination when a man
I knew as 0. H. Lee, but who has since been identified as Lee Harvey oswald " earlene roberts sworn statement
now again HER WORDS or atleast her written statement NOT MINE .i think it is quite clear to anyone who reads it properly , or atleast it should be . it states clearly at APPROXIMATELY 1.00PM i was sitting in the living room watching tv WHEN MR OSWALD WALKED IN .
there are atleast three pieces of info there
1/ the time : 1.00pm
2/ what she was doing : she was watching tv at that time
3/ who she saw : and then she saw oswald come in
so by her own admission she was watching tv , maybe she was still working on the picture , but none the less she was watching it when oswald walked in .
roberts gave us some more info , while oswald was in his room she heard toots of a car horn , looked and saw it was a police car , now she either looked out the window or opened her door and looked out .given what was going on on the tv my money is on the window .
next she tells us oswald left , then she tells us she went and looked and saw that oswald was outside at the bus stop . she never said she immediately went and looked to see why he came and went as he did . but it was not very long , i believe the word she used was a moment , but you can put your own spin on that if you want . actually i wouldnt want you to say im INVENTING OR MAKING STUFF UP so lets see her own words again .
"Oswald went out the front door. A moment later I looked out the window. I
saw Lee Oswald standing on the curb at the bus stop just to the right " earlene roberts
so you asked a question IT IS VERY MUCH ANSWERED . not only does it state here what she said , you can see in QUOTE exactly what she said . and you can see where its from , its her sworn statement , and SHE not me said she was WATCHING TV (all be it maybe not with as clear a screen as she might like ) .
my friend some may call it READING BETWEEN THE LINES , you can call it what you will . she was looking at her tv trying to make a clearer picture when she said oswald was walking in . between his entry and his departure she looked out the window because a car tooted its horn . but i would imagine jfks assassination was of a bit more interest to her than a car tooting its horn , wouldnt you agree ? . then at some point not long after oswald leaves . by her OWN ADMISSION again when he came in (her words not mine ) she didnt pay great attention to oswald , she looked but her focus was on the tv .
Mr. BALL. What color was his shirt? Do you know?
Mrs. ROBERTS. I don't remember. I didn't pay that much attention for I was interested in the television trying to get it fixed.
lets not assume about where her attention was focused when he left either , i mean i wouldnt want to be making stuff up now would i ? . lets have a look
Mr. BALL. Did he have the same colored pants on when he came in as when he went out?
Mrs. ROBERTS. Now, I wouldn't say that because I don't remember-I didn't pay that much attention. I didn't mean to be hateful, but I didn't.
Mr. BALL. Now, did it appear to you he had on the same pants or different pants from the time he came in and when he went out ?
Mr. ROBERTS. Well, I just didn't pay that much attention. All I remember-he was zipping up a coat and I was trying to find out about President Kennedy--I was still trying to find out about President Kennedy-they was broadcasting it then-I was more interested in that.
so is there a doubt that the tv was more important to her ? i dont think so . yes she noticed things but he main focus was the tv .
what i said was about her working on her tv / watching tv before he came home , while he was home at when he left . i said she could not see the news before it was broadcast that was all , i know the program that was interrupted you dont need to tell me about it . I DID NOT / NEVER said she only started watching tv after he left , maybe i was not as clear as perhaps i could have been . but now its clear is it not ? she was both working on / listening to and watching tv in the time before he came home , while he was at home and when he was leaving . a moment after he left she went to the window HER WORDS not mine .
i am not saying the news of jfks shooting only came on tv at 1pm , there is tv footage between the time of the shooting and 1pm . again i guess i was not as clear as i might have been . i was combining what roberts said , with other things like warren commission time trials , official times such as events on the bus , the cab etc . so im not just speaking based on what roberts said .
but again it is you not i that makes an assumption . you assume that the bulletin kicked in at 12.48 and that she tuned in immediately at that time and that oswald walked in right there .this is because you have a need to give him more time .now lets show people the actual video of as the world turns complete with cbs interruptions
you correctly stated as the world turns started at 12.30 and would end no later than 1pm . as can be seen in the video above the third bulletin which started as you said about 12.48 carried on at the least until 29.37 of that video , or 12.59 and 37 seconds . and im certain after that point also . so your agenda requires that oswald arrive as early as possible pre 1pm , but the news bulletin shows he could have arrived as roberts said at 1pm or shortly there after . a good investigation would have tried to clear up any questions of timing , its not always easy to be precise , but even you mention the bulletin as opposed to the actual 1pm news , they could have asked her about that and clarified . but as she was working on her tv it might have been hard for her to answer , i mean if she had audio with no video for a time . but then all they had to do was say MRS ROBERTS DO YOU RECALL SEEING ANY VIDEO AT ANY TIME WHILE OSWALD WAS THERE ? . not mentioning something perhaps because one was never asked does not automatically mean it never happened or was never the case .
