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Offline John Mytton

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Re: One of the most important books in this case is free and online!
« Reply #48 on: June 11, 2023, 04:14:04 AM »
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There is also no evidence for Oswald, or anybody else, receiving a rifle.

You obviously don't know the evidence.

C2766 was sent by Kleins to Oswald's PO box.
C2766 was photographed with Oswald which was verified by the HSCA photographic panel.
C2766 was discovered with Oswald's prints on the 6th floor of Oswald's work.

After you have sufficiently proven that you know this evidence then we may proceed but otherwise I'm getting tired of repeating myself, and watching your lacklustre attempts to show conspiracy is just plain boring.
Try harder or perhaps find another hobby.

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Re: One of the most important books in this case is free and online!
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Offline Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #49 on: June 11, 2023, 10:51:52 AM »
You obviously don't know the evidence.

C2766 was sent by Kleins to Oswald's PO box.
C2766 was photographed with Oswald which was verified by the HSCA photographic panel.
C2766 was discovered with Oswald's prints on the 6th floor of Oswald's work.

After you have sufficiently proven that you know this evidence then we may proceed but otherwise I'm getting tired of repeating myself, and watching your lacklustre attempts to show conspiracy is just plain boring.
Try harder or perhaps find another hobby.

JohnM

You obviously don't know the evidence.

C2766 was sent by Kleins to Oswald's PO box.
C2766 was photographed with Oswald which was verified by the HSCA photographic panel.
C2766 was discovered with Oswald's prints on the 6th floor of Oswald's work.


Hilarious. Even if all this were true, it still wouldn't be evidence that Oswald or anybody else received a rifle in the post.

C2766 was sent by Kleins to Oswald's PO box.

There is no evidence that Kleins' posted any rifle. All there is, is Waldmann 7, which had a serial number and the letters "PP" hand written on it. According to Waldmann, "PP" normally means that a package was sent, but there are no postal documents to show this actually happened and Waldmann, who had no direct involvement in the weapons department, had no way of knowing or verifying that the information on Waldmann 7 is actually correct. Even worse, they never even traced the person who wrote the serial nummer and the letters "PP" on the document. Waldmann 7 is the only document that links the serial number C2766 to the Hidell transaction and it was never authenticated.

C2766 was photographed with Oswald which was verified by the HSCA photographic panel.

This is simply not true. Nowhere in their reports do they say that the rifle Oswald was holding in the BY photos is C2766 or CE 139. All they say is that the rifle is similar to the one they photographed in the National Archive.

C2766 was discovered with Oswald's prints on the 6th floor of Oswald's work.

Another distortion of the truth. The FBI examined the rifle found at the TSBD in the night of Friday to Saturday and found no trace of a print or of a print having been lifted.
Only about a week later Lt Day produced an evidence card with a palmprint on it, which he claimed he had lifted from the rifle before sending the weapon to the FBI.
He just had not told anybody (yeah, right) and it's just about impossible to lift a print without leaving zero residue.


How disappointing. So early in the conversation you already show that you confuse actual evidence with assumptions.

It's either that or you have figured out that you don't really have the "rock solid evidence" that you constantly claim you have.

In any case, your total inability of having a normal conversation about the actual evidence clearly demonstrates that you are unable to defend the case against Oswald beyond, rather boringly, repeating the same old talking points regardless of how superficial they are.

Keep running, John

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« Reply #50 on: June 11, 2023, 12:36:04 PM »
You obviously don't know the evidence.

C2766 was sent by Kleins to Oswald's PO box.
C2766 was photographed with Oswald which was verified by the HSCA photographic panel.
C2766 was discovered with Oswald's prints on the 6th floor of Oswald's work.


Hilarious. Even if all this were true, it still wouldn't be evidence that Oswald or anybody else received a rifle in the post.


Thanks for responding but this is where I stopped reading.
Good luck and may your God be with you.
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Offline Martin Weidmann

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« Reply #51 on: June 11, 2023, 12:56:10 PM »
Thanks for responding but this is where I stopped reading.
Good luck and may your God be with you.
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JohnM

Of course you stopped reading. You wouldn't want to get facts in the way of your superficial opinions about what is actually evidence.   :D


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« Reply #52 on: June 11, 2023, 02:20:18 PM »
C2766 was sent by Kleins to Oswald's PO box.
C2766 was photographed with Oswald which was verified by the HSCA photographic panel.
C2766 was discovered with Oswald's prints on the 6th floor of Oswald's work.

JohnM

C2766 was sent by Kleins to Oswald's PO box.


C2766 was photographed with Oswald which was verified by the HSCA photographic panel.

https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/hsca/report/html/HSCA_Report_0042a.htm

C2766 was discovered with Oswald's prints on the 6th floor of Oswald's work.


The FBI's proof that the Lt Day print came from C2766, thus proving Oswald touched the murder weapon


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Re: One of the most important books in this case is free and online!
« Reply #53 on: June 11, 2023, 03:01:16 PM »

C2766 was sent by Kleins to Oswald's PO box.


Let's deal with this first. How in the world can you find evidence in those documents that a rifle was sent?
All you really have is Waldmann stating that "PP" on Waldmann 7 means that it was shipped by Parcel Post.
Now, just to avoid misunderstandings; that's what Waldmann said the marking on the form means. It does not prove an actual shipment was ever sent.

Let's make this really simple, shall we? Let's say you ordered something at Amazon and paid for it by credit card. However, your order never arrives and you phone Amazon to ask what happened. They tell you you must have received it because the order was definitively shipped as on their paperwork it says "PP". Would you consider that to be a satisfactory response?
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« Reply #54 on: June 11, 2023, 03:50:46 PM »
Whenever a list of the incriminating evidence is posted, some Conspiracy Kook goes through 1 by 1 and shows how each piece of rock solid evidence is somehow false because of some reason or another but shouldn't their list of objections be evidence that leads to whoever committed the crime but alas they can never make a connection because their grievances are just a jumbled mess which ultimately leads nowhere!

Whenever the topic of evidence comes up, some LN Kook rattles off a laundry list of false, inconclusive, unreliable, or unsubstantiated claims and calls it evidence.

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« Reply #55 on: June 11, 2023, 03:54:29 PM »
Even if handwriting “analysis” was reliable, exactly what is the money order supposedly found in Virginia supposed to prove? There’s nothing that connects it to any particular order.

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« Reply #55 on: June 11, 2023, 03:54:29 PM »