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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: One of the most important books in this case is free and online!
« Reply #72 on: June 12, 2023, 04:44:36 PM »
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If only I had a dollar for every time some rabid CT said they read the WCR from cover to cover. LOL

If I only had a dollar for every LN evangelist who thinks that challenging their faith-based assumptions is a “conspiracy theory”.

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Re: One of the most important books in this case is free and online!
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: One of the most important books in this case is free and online!
« Reply #73 on: June 12, 2023, 05:07:55 PM »
C2766 was photographed with Oswald which was verified by the HSCA photographic panel.

This is false. You really should learn the evidence.

Nobody “verified” anything, and it wasn’t a panel conclusion, it was a Cecil Kirk conclusion:

“the Panel's forensic photographic specialist considered this mark to be a random patterning sufficient to warrant a positive identification.” (6HSCA88)

Cecil Kirk, by his own admission based this “consideration” on a “tilting of the scales”:

Sergeant KIRK. When I match that up with the scientific data Mr. McCamy has obtained from measuring it, this has to tilt the scales in the direction, yes, indeed it is the same rifle. (2HSCA429)

That’s not a “verification”. That’s not to the exclusion of all other rifles. It’s not even beyond a reasonable doubt.
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Offline Jack Nessan

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Re: One of the most important books in this case is free and online!
« Reply #74 on: June 12, 2023, 06:56:34 PM »
There is an abundance of evidence that indicates LHO was the assassin. Where is the evidence that exonerates LHO and indicates a need to look at someone else?

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Re: One of the most important books in this case is free and online!
« Reply #75 on: June 12, 2023, 10:29:24 PM »
This is false. You really should learn the evidence.

Nobody “verified” anything, and it wasn’t a panel conclusion, it was a Cecil Kirk conclusion:

“the Panel's forensic photographic specialist considered this mark to be a random patterning sufficient to warrant a positive identification.” (6HSCA88)

Cecil Kirk, by his own admission based this “consideration” on a “tilting of the scales”:

Sergeant KIRK. When I match that up with the scientific data Mr. McCamy has obtained from measuring it, this has to tilt the scales in the direction, yes, indeed it is the same rifle. (2HSCA429)

That’s not a “verification”. That’s not to the exclusion of all other rifles. It’s not even beyond a reasonable doubt.

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Nobody “verified” anything, and it wasn’t a panel conclusion, it was a Cecil Kirk conclusion

How bizarre, another odd Iacoletti conclusion, Kirk and McCamy were speaking on behalf of the photographic panel. And let's not forget that we also have McCamy reinforcing the Panel's conclusion. Geez John, whatever it takes! LOL²

Mr. FITHIAN. Mr. McCamy, can you give us any measurement or photogrammetric process or anything that you did to further nail down this I think vital question.
Mr. McCAMY. Yes. We made measurements, measurements on the rifle, and on the photographs to ascertain that indeed this particular chip was in the right place.


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That’s not a “verification”. That’s not to the exclusion of all other rifles. It’s not even beyond a reasonable doubt.

Oh really??

"yes, indeed it is the same rifle."

And the HSCA Photographic Panel even provided their evidence to support their conclusion and the fanatical CT community has has decades to disprove their findings and so far not a peep, why is that, John?



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Re: One of the most important books in this case is free and online!
« Reply #76 on: June 12, 2023, 10:30:46 PM »
If I only had a dollar for every LN evangelist who thinks that challenging their faith-based assumptions is a “conspiracy theory”.

"faith-based" LOL²

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Re: One of the most important books in this case is free and online!
« Reply #77 on: June 12, 2023, 10:34:00 PM »
And they can't check it against the microfilm either as that's been "missing" for decades now!

"missing"

Prove it!

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Re: One of the most important books in this case is free and online!
« Reply #78 on: June 12, 2023, 10:52:22 PM »
"missing"

Prove it!

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Another pathetic LN trick; asking for a negative to be proven.

But let's try this; the Kleins' microfilm is part of the evidence. The FBI took it on 11/23/63 and the WC used it in Waldman's testimony. As such, it should be with all the other evidence in the National Archives, but guess what; it isn't there.

Just ask them and find out for yourself.

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Re: One of the most important books in this case is free and online!
« Reply #79 on: June 12, 2023, 11:02:37 PM »
Another pathetic LN trick; asking for a negative to be proven.

But let's try this; the Kleins' microfilm is part of the evidence. The FBI took it on 11/23/63 and the WC used it in Waldman's testimony. As such, it should be with all the other evidence in the National Archives, but guess what; it isn't there.

Just ask them and find out for yourself.

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Just ask them and find out for yourself.

It's YOUR claim, now prove it! Thanks in advance.

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Re: One of the most important books in this case is free and online!
« Reply #79 on: June 12, 2023, 11:02:37 PM »