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Online Richard Smith

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Re: Russians Interference with the 2022 Elections.
« Reply #40 on: June 13, 2023, 02:41:14 PM »
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So many words, but no evidence.  The Russia hoax will go down in history as the biggest fake conspiracy theory ever recorded.  The history book will not be kind to those who perpetuated that hoax and then politicized COVID for political purposes to win an election.  Compounded with using the corrupt justice system to arrest political opponents, this will be remembered as a dark era in American history.  The corruption of Old Joe and Biden, Inc. will eventually be acknowledged.  The FBI and DOJ are giving it the slow roll in the hope that they can delay any prosecution until after the 2024 election to protect their jobs.

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Re: Russians Interference with the 2022 Elections.
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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Russians Interference with the 2022 Elections.
« Reply #41 on: June 15, 2023, 10:24:11 PM »
Let's remember who is claiming Trump's Russian collusion "is a hoax". Donald Trump himself, a pathological liar, a twice impeached indicted arrested criminal.

Does anyone actually believe Trump is going to admit his Russian pals helped him steal the 2016 election when he lost the popular vote by over 3 million votes?  This is the same criminal who openly tried to steal the 2020 election from the American people and Joe Biden and he still lies about that election being "rigged".

Right wingers parrot the "no collusion" lie because they can't admit their orange cult leader is a loser. These are the same clowns that make up 2020 election conspiracies so they can feel better about Donnie losing in a blowout election.

Donald Trump's former campaign chairman Paul Manafort, another indicted criminal who went to prison, gave a Russian spy the 2016 Trump campaign internal polling data. Why would an American political campaign give sensitive polling data to a foreign enemy if nothing nefarious was intended?

So, the act of Manafort giving a Russian spy the Trump campaign polling data is "collusion". Both parties were in an agreement to collude with each other for the 2016 election.

Paul Manafort himself admitted to handing this data over to a Russian spy who was in Russian Intelligence. Why would an American campaign chairman do that if nothing nefarious was intended?

Right wingers have no answers for that. My tweet the other day on Twitter received 250k views and not a single right winger could give a decent answer as to why it's acceptable for Trump to give polling data to the Russians. All I saw were the lame usual excuses and denials.                                 

So the fact is, the Russians received Trump polling data from the Trump campaign. That sensitive polling data showed which districts in important states Trump was losing to Clinton. It's also no coincidence, that the Russians attacked those same swing districts Trump was losing in: Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. And the result was Trump got 77,000 more votes in those three states. That's called Russian interference. 

So yes, Russian collusion and interference is REAL because United States Intelligence confirmed it and Paul Manafort ADMITTED to it. Handing over your sensitive campaign polling data to a foreign enemy is the very definition of COLLUSION.

Right wingers won't admit to it, but that's exactly what it is.

     
Ex-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort admits sharing info with Russians
Mr Manafort has previously denied sharing polling data with suspected Russian spy Konstantin Kilimnik
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/paul-manafort-russia-polling-data-b2140727.html


U.S. says Russia was given Trump campaign polling data in 2016

"A Treasury Department statement Thursday offered a potentially significant clue, asserting that Konstantin Kilimnik, a Russian and Ukrainian political consultant, had shared sensitive campaign and polling information with Russian intelligence services.

Kilimnik has long been alleged by U.S. officials to have ties to Russian intelligence. But the statement in a broader Treasury Department sanctions announcement was the first time the U.S. government had so directly drawn a connection from the Trump campaign to the Kremlin’s intelligence services. The revelation was all the more startling because it went beyond any allegation made in either special counsel Robert Mueller’s 2019 report or in an even more damning and detailed document released last year by the Senate Intelligence Committee."


https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/u-s-says-russia-was-given-trump-campaign-polling-data-in-2016

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Re: Russians Interference with the 2022 Elections.
« Reply #42 on: June 22, 2023, 02:47:10 AM »
Today, Rep. Eric Swalwell got former Justice Department special counsel John Durham to admit under oath that there's substantial evidence that Russia interfered in the 2016 election.

Watch: https://twitter.com/i/status/1671682016280969216

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Re: Russians Interference with the 2022 Elections.
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