Who do you believe?

[Wesley Johnson]

And what would Oswald's motivation be for trying to provide an alibi that included co-workers who could easily deny his presence there. Does anyone think Fritz would not ask Jarman and Norman if Oswald was there? Perhaps that is not exactly what he said.....we will never know will we.

How could Oswald pick the only 2 co-workers that just happened to pass the domino room within 5 minutes of the shots? Was he Nostradamus? Perhaps he knew he would be killed on the Sunday and it didn?t matter what he said.

Colin, what theory do you believe?
"How could Oswald pick the only 2 co-workers that just happened to pass the domino room within 5 minutes of the
shots?"

Colin, Oswald did not name Norman. He really never named Jarman, what he told Fritz was "he had lunch with some of the colored boys that worked with him. One of them was called Junior and the other one was a little short man whose name he did not know." The short man was probably Charles Givens. Do you want to re-track that statement? And none of the black men that worked there said they saw Oswald during lunch.

[Martin Weidmann]

Martin you and your CT buff buddies better not ever start a life of crime or be in a real conspiracy. None of you have any common sense or any sense at all. Over the years the CTers have created so many theories that there must be over a hundred shooters now. It is funny that a lot of the people on here will not commit to saying which theory they believe. Instead all they do is argue with the people who believe Oswald acted alone. CTers have more people being at the plaza then were really there. You said earlier that you had concerns about the evidence against Oswald. So let me ask you. Is there a single piece of evidence that points to Oswald that you do trust? Anything? It is entertaining though.

It seems you have great difficulty processing information and dealing with anything that is outside the bubble you live in. When unable to debate and come up with credible replies, just attack/insult the person your talking to. Classic LN strategy and as weak as can be. But at least you have now shown your true colors...

Instead all they do is argue with the people who believe Oswald acted alone.

Of course they do, because those people seem to be the gullible ones who claim to know and be right about just about everything yet are unable to prove and/or convince.

You said earlier that you had concerns about the evidence against Oswald. So let me ask you. Is there a single piece of evidence that points to Oswald that you do trust? Anything?

What, now you turn into Richard Smith make II? Always the same crappy questions. You sound like a desperate prosecutor with an extremely weak case who is asking to jury what he needs to tell them to get a conviction. It's beyond pathetic.

I have answered every question you have asked me. You on the other hand, not so much. Fortunately, I have enough common sense to know when I am talking to a zealot with an agenda and a closed mind. Conversation is over....

[Wesley Johnson]

It seems you have great difficulty processing information and dealing with anything that is outside the bubble you live in. When unable to debate and come up with credible replies, just attack/insult the person your talking to. Classic LN strategy and as weak as can be. But at least you have now shown your true colors...

Instead all they do is argue with the people who believe Oswald acted alone.

Of course they do, because the people are the gullible ones who claim to know and be right about just about everything yet are unable to prove and/or convince.

You said earlier that you had concerns about the evidence against Oswald. So let me ask you. Is there a single piece of evidence that points to Oswald that you do trust? Anything?

What, now you turn into Richard Smith make II? Always the same crappy questions. You sound like a desperate prosecutor with an extremely weak case who is asking to jury what he needs to tell them to get a conviction. It's beyond pathetic.

I have answered every question you have asked me. You on the other hand, not so much. Fortunately, I have enough common sense to know when I am talking to a zealot with an agenda and a closed mind. Conversation is over....

A little sensitive there aren't you Martin? I don't know who Richard Smith is so "your insult" means nothing. And what you guys always do when you fail is to quit. Been fun. Thanks for the amusement. 

[Colin Crow]

Colin, what theory do you believe?
"How could Oswald pick the only 2 co-workers that just happened to pass the domino room within 5 minutes of the
shots?"

Colin, Oswald did not name Norman. He really never named Jarman, what he told Fritz was "he had lunch with some of the colored boys that worked with him. One of them was called Junior and the other one was a little short man whose name he did not know." The short man was probably Charles Givens. Do you want to re-track that statement? And none of the black men that worked there said they saw Oswald during lunch.

Do you understand what a theory is?

Do you know that Oswald knew Jarman's surname? Or Normans'? They didn?t even know Bonnie Ray Williams' surname. How tall do you believe Givens was.....and Norman? Do you think the facts require me to retract?

[Bill Brown]

I already told you in the "Oswald probably did it" thread who the 4 people were who said they saw a gunman in a window.  Hint:  Worrell was not one of them.  But when the topic of Mac Wallace came up, you asked what witnesses said they saw Mac Wallace.  So it's fair to ask you then what witnesses said they saw Lee Oswald.

It's just Brennan then, right?  And that was some time later after not identifying him in the lineup, right?  Do you consider his change of heart to be reliable?  I don't.  Do you think that the details that Brennan described in great detail both in his testimony and in his book were things that he actually could or did see? I don't.  For example, how did he see a gunman in firing position for the head shot from where he was sitting and see enough of him to estimate his height, weight, and clothing?  How did he see a gunman in firing position for the head shot from the belt up?  How did he see 70-85% of the gun and not see a scope (if it was C2766)?

The people who claimed to have seen two men:

- Arnold Rowland
- Carolyn Walther
- Ruby Henderson
- Norman Similas
- Johnny Powell

It's just Brennan then, right?  And that was some time later after not identifying him in the lineup, right?

For the record, at the time he attended the lineup, Brennan did pick Oswald as most resembling the man (of all the lineup "suspects") who he saw in the window.

While this may not be a proof positive identification, it is also inaccurate to state that Brennan did not identify Oswald in the lineup.

[Martin Weidmann]

Do you understand what a theory is?

Do you know that Oswald knew Jarman's surname? Or Normans'? They didn?t even know Bonnie Ray Williams' surname. How tall do you believe Givens was.....and Norman? Do you think the facts require me to retract?

It seems he is completely clueless and beyond any sense of reality. Givens wasn't anywhere near the TSBD when Norman and Jarman made their way to the 5th floor. Wesley seems to be one of those LNs who won't let the facts get in the way of a bogus selfserving claim.

The reality is that, according to his own testimony, Givens left the building to see the motorcade with Norman and Jarman, but he left them and went first to the parking lot east of Elm and Houston and then to the corner of Main and Record, where he was when the shots were fired. There is no way the short guy was Givens. 

[Colin Crow]

It seems he is completely clueless and beyond any sense of reality. Givens wasn't anywhere near the TSBD when Norman and Jarman made their way to the 5th floor. Wesley seems to be one of those LNs who won't let the facts get in the way of a bogus selfserving claim.

The reality is that, according to his own testimony, Givens left the building to see the motorcade with Norman and Jarman, but he left them and went first to the parking lot east of Elm and Houston and then to the corner of Main and Record, where he was when the shots were fired. There is no way the short guy was Givens.

Then again Givens was a short 6?2? LOL. Some people should stick to the shallow end.

[Wesley Johnson]

Do you understand what a theory is?

Do you know that Oswald knew Jarman's surname? Or Normans'? They didn?t even know Bonnie Ray Williams' surname. How tall do you believe Givens was.....and Norman? Do you think the facts require me to retract?

Sure I know what a theory is, but you guys don't. Why don't you name the one you believe and we can continue.