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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Who do you believe?
« Reply #88 on: March 11, 2018, 11:50:56 PM »
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The WC defender argument is that Oswald stated he ate his lunch in the domino room with Jr and a short guy, believed to be Jarman and Norman, when asked by Fritz.

What possible reason would Oswald have do such a thing when it was so easily disproven?

I would like to see a best guess of the conversation between Fritz and Oswald that you guys think happened that day.......give it a shot.

What possible reason would Oswald have to say that he did not own a rifle when it was so easily disproven? What possible reason would Oswald to say that he purchased his revolver in Texas when it was so easily disproven? What possible reason would Oswald have to say that he never brought a lengthy package to work with him that day when it was so easily disproven? What possible reason would Oswald have to say that he never lived on Neely street when it was so easily disproven? And on and on and on.....

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Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Who do you believe?
« Reply #89 on: March 12, 2018, 12:52:24 AM »
What possible reason would Oswald have to say that he did not own a rifle when it was so easily disproven? What possible reason would Oswald to say that he purchased his revolver in Texas when it was so easily disproven? What possible reason would Oswald have to say that he never brought a lengthy package to work with him that day when it was so easily disproven? What possible reason would Oswald have to say that he never lived on Neely street when it was so easily disproven? And on and on and on.....

I do not dispute that he lied about purchasing the weapons, or anything that related to his possession of them eg the photos and Neely St. One could argue that he might have believed that it would not be possible to trace them to him so easily. The package is not so clear cut as you know. However if you are correct....
all this stuff is so obviously indisputable......why not simply confess? Why try and make such an obviously disprovable claim? One that just so happens to have been possible if the wording of his answer was "pass by" the lunchroom and not "pass through".

Then again no verbatim transcript exists so we were never afforded the opportunity to determine for ourselves.

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Re: Who do you believe?
« Reply #90 on: March 12, 2018, 03:05:55 AM »

Colin, what theory do you believe?
"How could Oswald pick the only 2 co-workers that just happened to pass the domino room within 5 minutes of the
shots?"

The short man was probably Charles Givens.

I don?t believe you.   ;D

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Online Richard Smith

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Re: Who do you believe?
« Reply #91 on: March 12, 2018, 01:50:30 PM »
Yes, old Lee took his over two-foot long lunch bag to the lunchroom and had a leisurely meal while the motorcade drove by.  He, the most politically minded person in the entire workforce who had read JFK's book, had no interest whatsoever in the president driving by that day.  And his fingerprints showing up on the SN boxes by the very window from which the shots were fired, just another wild streak of bad luck.  And after going to the considerable risk to frame Oswald for this crime, of course the conspirators would just let him roam about in the public parts of the building like a lunchroom where he could very well have been seen (as CTers allege here) and been given an alibi.  Thankfully the person who did see him decided to hold off a decade or so to tell her story.  That is the kind of lunacy that you are dealing with here. 

Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Who do you believe?
« Reply #92 on: March 12, 2018, 03:25:03 PM »
Yes, old Lee took his over two-foot long lunch bag to the lunchroom and had a leisurely meal while the motorcade drove by.  He, the most politically minded person in the entire workforce who had read JFK's book, had no interest whatsoever in the president driving by that day.  And his fingerprints showing up on the SN boxes by the very window from which the shots were fired, just another wild streak of bad luck.  And after going to the considerable risk to frame Oswald for this crime, of course the conspirators would just let him roam about in the public parts of the building like a lunchroom where he could very well have been seen (as CTers allege here) and been given an alibi.  Thankfully the person who did see him decided to hold off a decade or so to tell her story.  That is the kind of lunacy that you are dealing with here.

That is the kind of lunacy that you are dealing with here.

Nobody is asking you to deal with anything here and nobody is forcing you to stay.

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Offline Wesley Johnson

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Re: Who do you believe?
« Reply #93 on: March 12, 2018, 03:55:14 PM »
The WC defender argument is that Oswald stated he ate his lunch in the domino room with Jr and a short guy, believed to be Jarman and Norman, when asked by Fritz.

What possible reason would Oswald have do such a thing when it was so easily disproven?

I would like to see a best guess of the conversation between Fritz and Oswald that you guys think happened that day.......give it a shot.

So are you saying Oswald never said he had lunch on the first floor? Really? If you do Colin then my next question for you is, "Are you saying all of the men that were in the interrogation room were part of a conspiracy?" LOL That would include Capt. Fritz who was a fine lawman. So are you claiming Capt. Fritz was part of a conspiracy?

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Re: Who do you believe?
« Reply #94 on: March 12, 2018, 04:00:50 PM »
That is the kind of lunacy that you are dealing with here.

Nobody is asking you to deal with anything here and nobody is forcing you to stay.

Nice substantive contribution as usual.  How about you start with explaining a plan that involves considerable risk and preparation to frame Oswald as the assassin but then allows him to wander the building freely and eat lunch at the crucial moment.  In which location, he might encounter and be given an alibi by anyone.  Does this sound to you like something your fantasy conspirators would just leave to chance?  The most critical part of the plan.  Oswald's location at the moment of the assassination.  Suppose Oswald had done the obvious thing like most of his co-workers and gone outside to watch the motorcade pass?  And been photographed or yucked it up with Buell on the steps and have an iron clad alibi while his prints and gun are planted on the 6th floor.  Ridiculous.  You should be ashamed.

Offline Wesley Johnson

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Re: Who do you believe?
« Reply #95 on: March 12, 2018, 04:01:57 PM »
That is the kind of lunacy that you are dealing with here.

Nobody is asking you to deal with anything here and nobody is forcing you to stay.



And nobody is asking you to deal with anything, or stay either Martin. And if my "open ended questions" as you call them, bother you don't respond. The question on here is "Who do you believe? Oswald or Arnold?" And typical of you, you never answer anything. All you are is "woulda, shouda, couda."

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Re: Who do you believe?
« Reply #95 on: March 12, 2018, 04:01:57 PM »