The Walker Case

[Andrew Mason]

On the 22nd Oswald missed his target(Kennedy's head) with his first two shots and the third shot was very nearly a miss, hitting Kennedy at the upper end of Kennedy's head in the cowlick, so Oswald wasn't exactly a good shot. A professional assassin would hit a relatively slow moving target on his first shot.

According to the current version of the SBT, the first shot missed the entire car. 

However, not only is there no clear evidence that the first, or any, shot missed missed, there is abundant clear evidence that the first shot struck JFK in the back and traversed his neck. There is also evidence that the second shot struck JBC.  The preponderence of evidence is that the second shot was closer to the third.  There is also evidence from George Hickey, that the second shot just passed to the right side of JFK's head as he saw JFK's hair on the right side lift at the same time that the second shout sounded.   And there is abundant evidence that the head shot was the third and last shot.

So, according to the evidence, Oswald was pretty accurate on all three shots.

[Jerry Organ]

According to the current version of the SBT, the first shot missed the entire car. 

However, not only is there no clear evidence that the first, or any, shot missed missed, there is abundant clear evidence that the first shot struck JFK in the back and traversed his neck. There is also evidence that the second shot struck JBC.  The preponderence of evidence is that the second shot was closer to the third.  There is also evidence from George Hickey, that the second shot just passed to the right side of JFK's head as he saw JFK's hair on the right side lift at the same time that the second shout sounded.   And there is abundant evidence that the head shot was the third and last shot.

So, according to the evidence, Oswald was pretty accurate on all three shots.

Not your George Hickey crap again. 


Even if Hickey had fully stood and got his head turned around in one second (the time span between him with his head turned quite far towards the rear as shown in the Altgens Photo and when Mason has Hickey "seeing" the President's hair flutter in the Z270s), Hickey couldn't see where Kennedy's hair fluttered because the President's head is tilted forward. It's just a tiny amount of hair in the Z270s that bounces up 1/2 inch for one frame and then falls downward. A 1/18th second event wouldn't make this much of an impression on Hickey: "the hair on the right side of his head flew forward".

    "The first shot of the second two seemed as if it missed because
     the hair on the right side of his head flew forward and there didn't
     seem to be any impact against his head. The last shot seemed to
     hit his head and cause a noise at the point of impact which made
     him fall forward and to his left again. - Possibly four or five seconds
     elapsed from the time of the first report and the last."

Maybe an impression Hickey had of the head shot and the scalp flying away from the President's head. Later on, he mistakenly applied it to an earlier shot. Or Hickey could be accurate but he's referring to the second shot in the early Z220s. That is when Hickey could clearly see the President's hair suddenly bounce, during Kennedy's reaction to the Single-Bullet strike in the early Z220s.

[Andrew Mason]

Not your George Hickey crap again. 


Even if Hickey had fully stood and got his head turned around in one second (the time span between him with his head turned quite far towards the rear as shown in the Altgens Photo and when Mason has Hickey "seeing" the President's hair flutter in the Z270s), Hickey couldn't see where Kennedy's hair fluttered because the President's head is tilted forward. It's just a tiny amount of hair in the Z270s that bounces up 1/2 inch for one frame and then falls downward. A 1/18th second event wouldn't make this much of an impression on Hickey: "the hair on the right side of his head flew forward".

    "The first shot of the second two seemed as if it missed because
     the hair on the right side of his head flew forward and there didn't
     seem to be any impact against his head. The last shot seemed to
     hit his head and cause a noise at the point of impact which made
     him fall forward and to his left again. - Possibly four or five seconds
     elapsed from the time of the first report and the last."

Maybe an impression Hickey had of the head shot and the scalp flying away from the President's head. Later on, he mistakenly applied it to an earlier shot. Or Hickey could be accurate but he's referring to the second shot in the early Z220s. That is when Hickey could clearly see the President's hair suddenly bounce, during Kennedy's reaction to the Single-Bullet strike in the early Z220s.

Not your "George Hickey did not see what he said he saw" crap again. 

One does not need George Hickey to establish that each of the shots did not miss the car.

[Jerry Organ]

    "The first shot of the second two seemed as if it missed because
     the hair on the right side of his head flew forward and there didn't
     seem to be any impact against his head."

I was just parsing Hickey's statement and it could be he's not saying the second shot (he heard three, so "the first shot of the second two" would be his second shot) missed. Rather Hickey is saying the second shot missed but only in regards to it not striking the head.

    "The first shot of the second two seemed as if it missed [the head]
     because ... there didn't seem to be any impact against his head."

Other than Bennett and Hill, I can't see where any of the agents (from the early sources I checked; there may be more or later ones) in the followup car said the president was wounded before the head shot. So Hickey might have been in the dark as to whether the second-shot (Z220s) reaction ("the hair on the right side of his head flew forward") actually meant the President had been hit. He only knew for sure it wasn't the shot that struck the President's head.

[Andrew Mason]

    "The first shot of the second two seemed as if it missed because
     the hair on the right side of his head flew forward and there didn't
     seem to be any impact against his head."

I was just parsing Hickey's statement and it could be he's not saying the second shot (he heard three, so "the first shot of the second two" would be his second shot) missed. Rather Hickey is saying the second shot missed but only in regards to it not striking the head.

    "The first shot of the second two seemed as if it missed [the head]
     because ... there didn't seem to be any impact against his head."

Other than Bennett and Hill, I can't see where any of the agents (from the early sources I checked; there may be more or later ones) in the followup car said the president was wounded before the head shot. So Hickey might have been in the dark as to whether the second-shot (Z220s) reaction ("the hair on the right side of his head flew forward") actually meant the President had been hit. He only knew for sure it wasn't the shot that struck the President's head.

This thread is about the Walker bullet, not the SBT.  In any event, Hickey did not turn forward until well after JFK was showing signs of having been shot in the neck.  Before then (and as you pointed out) he is still facing rearward at z255 in Altgens 6).  No one anywhere said they saw JFK get hit in the neck.  They just reported what they observed happening after the first shot.  They said he immediately reacted by moving to the left/bringing his hands to his front/blank stare/ etc.  None reported that JFK continued to smile and wave at all, let alone for 3 seconds.