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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: A question about Oswald
« Reply #152 on: September 01, 2023, 10:09:43 PM »
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Day left the TSBD with the rifle and he never returned to the building.

Really?

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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: A question about Oswald
« Reply #154 on: September 01, 2023, 10:20:10 PM »
Alan, this makes the whole thing even more confusing.

The official story is that Lt Day took the palmprint of the rifle, at the DPD, but didn't process it completely because he was told to drop everything and turn the evidence over to the FBI, who subsequently found not prints or even residue of a print on the rifle.

If this is an accurate communication to SAC Dallas on the day of the assassination, at first glance, it seems to support the official story, but the last sentence (Lt Day was at this time at the book despository and the gun was at the PD) actually destroys the official narrative.

As Walt pointed out is that Day left the TSBD with the rifle and he never returned to the building. So, what the hell is going on here?

Can you post the entire memo?

"So what the hell is going on here?"

It's very clear to me that the authorities were lying and doing what ever was necessary tp frame Lee Oswald. 

They were the guilty party and their necks were in the noose.....

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Re: A question about Oswald
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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: A question about Oswald
« Reply #155 on: September 01, 2023, 10:22:53 PM »
You know different?

Mr. BELIN. What else did you do, or what was the next thing you did after you completed photographing and inspecting the rifle on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository Building for whatever prints you could find, what did you do next?
Mr. DAY. I took the gun at the time to the office and locked it up in a box in my office at Captain Fritz' direction.
Mr. BELIN. Then what did you do?
Mr. DAY. I went back to the School Book Depository and stayed there. It was around three that I got back, and I was in that building until about 6, directing the other officers as to what we needed in the way of photographs and some drawing, and so forth.

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Re: A question about Oswald
« Reply #156 on: September 01, 2023, 11:08:38 PM »
Mr. BELIN. What else did you do, or what was the next thing you did after you completed photographing and inspecting the rifle on the sixth floor of the Texas School Book Depository Building for whatever prints you could find, what did you do next?
Mr. DAY. I took the gun at the time to the office and locked it up in a box in my office at Captain Fritz' direction.
Mr. BELIN. Then what did you do?
Mr. DAY. I went back to the School Book Depository and stayed there. It was around three that I got back, and I was in that building until about 6, directing the other officers as to what we needed in the way of photographs and some drawing, and so forth.


Ok, so what's the point you are trying to make?

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Online John Iacoletti

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Re: A question about Oswald
« Reply #157 on: September 02, 2023, 10:27:51 PM »
There were a number of latent and semi-smudged prints on the rifle but the FBI examiner was an old-school stickler requiring a certain degree of lift quality and number of identification points. For a print to be considered for lifting at the FBI then, it had to be visible on the object with enough points through a hand-held magnifying glass. 

Sounds like reasonable doubt. There’s a reason for those standards.

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Latona dismissed the trigger-guard housing fingerprints as "of no value" despite his own efforts to photograph them and having Day's photos. It was not until 1993 that the trigger-guard prints were better analyzed by combining the high-quality pictures taken by Day. The results were presented in the outstanding 1993 PBS documentary "Who was Lee Harvey Oswald?".

Not “better analyzed”, just much weaker criteria. Photos with no provenance stashed in a briefcase for 30 years and no disclosure on how many points matched or where they were.

Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: A question about Oswald
« Reply #158 on: September 02, 2023, 11:45:58 PM »
Sounds like reasonable doubt. There’s a reason for those standards.

Not “better analyzed”, just much weaker criteria. Photos with no provenance stashed in a briefcase for 30 years and no disclosure on how many points matched or where they were.

Well said. Lowering the standards for evidence is prevalent in every aspect of the LN case.
I'm just about sure that if the case against Oswald had ever gone to trial, the prosecution would not be able to get a conviction.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: A question about Oswald
« Reply #159 on: September 03, 2023, 01:13:12 AM »
Well said. Lowering the standards for evidence is prevalent in every aspect of the LN case.
I'm just about sure that if the case against Oswald had ever gone to trial, the prosecution would not be able to get a conviction.

I'm just about sure that if the case against Oswald had ever gone to trial, the prosecution would not be able to get a conviction.

You're so right.....  And the perpetrators knew that, and that's why they could not allow to let Lee Oswald live.

Even after they had murdered him they realized that the American people needed to be convinced that Lee Oswald was simple a lone nut who killed John Kennedy for no reason...... And that's the reason LBJ created the Warren Commission.    It's a pity that so many researchers fall back on the lies that were created by the DPD and Hoover's FBI and propped up by the Warren Commission.



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Re: A question about Oswald
« Reply #159 on: September 03, 2023, 01:13:12 AM »