A question about Oswald

[Martin Weidmann]

The so called "Palm Print" was discovered on the rifle by detective Day IN THE TSBD  when he was dusting the rifle for finger prints just minutes after it was removed from BENEATH the pallet that had boxes of books stacked on it.   Day knew that the logical place to look for a palm print was on the foregrip of the rifle so he concentrated his search in that area with his magnifying glass. He found a smudge that he thought could be a print  but he wanted to exam that smudge in the lab. He knew that the wood of the foregrip could absorb the oil from the "print" so he lifted that "print" and placed it on a small white card, as Tom Alyea watched.  He jotted down the pertinent data about the "print" on the white card.

THAT is the source of the so called Palm Print  and that's why the FBI could find no trace of a print on the metal barrel and they could find no evidence that a lift had been made from the metal barrel.    BUT they needed "something" to link that rifle to Lee Oswald so they concocted  the stupid story that 99% of researchers believe.

So, you are in fact saying that Oswald's print was indeed on the rifle?

[John Mytton]

So, you are in fact saying that Oswald's print was indeed on the rifle?

Well duh, of course Oswald's print was on Oswald's rifle, whose print would you expect to see, perhaps the Pope, Elvis Presley or the Queen of England? Hahaha!

JohnM

[Walt Cakebread]

So, you are in fact saying that Oswald's print was indeed on the rifle?

NO!  Emphatically NO!

Detective Day saw a SMUDGE on the wooden foregrip that he imagined to be a palm print while dusting the rifle in the TSBD.   He lifted that SMUDGE "Palm print" wit scotch tape as Tom Alyea watched.   He placed the lifted smudge on a small white  card ( Now know as CE 639).  He turned that white card, along with all of the evidence, over to FBI agent Vince Drain at midnight on 11/22/63.   The FBI were unable to find a useful print on that card.


But they did manage to change that smudge into the palm print of Lee Oswald after they sent all of the evidence back to the DPD. and concoct the tale about Day disassembling the rifle and lifting that print from the metal barrel of the carcano.     

A person can't believe a damned thing the police said about the evidence most of it is created by the lies.

[Alan Ford]

But they did manage to change that smudge into the palm print of Lee Oswald after they sent all of the evidence back to the DPD

Mr. Cakebread, are you saying they used photographic trickery to superimpose Mr. Oswald's palm print onto the smudge on Lt. Day's white card--------and the result was CE639?

[Martin Weidmann]

NO!  Emphatically NO!

Detective Day saw a SMUDGE on the wooden foregrip that he imagined to be a palm print while dusting the rifle in the TSBD.   He lifted that SMUDGE "Palm print" wit scotch tape as Tom Alyea watched.   He placed the lifted smudge on a small white  card ( Now know as CE 639).  He turned that white card, along with all of the evidence, over to FBI agent Vince Drain at midnight on 11/22/63.   The FBI were unable to find a useful print on that card.


But they did manage to change that smudge into the palm print of Lee Oswald after they sent all of the evidence back to the DPD. and concoct the tale about Day disassembling the rifle and lifting that print from the metal barrel of the carcano.     

A person can't believe a damned thing the police said about the evidence most of it is created by the lies.

Thanks for the explanation, Walt.

I wasn't aware of that scenario and, honestly, it seems somewhat far fetched. What is your source for this?

[Walt Cakebread]

Mr. Cakebread, are you saying they used photographic trickery to superimpose Mr. Oswald's palm print onto the smudge on Lt. Day's white card--------and the result was CE639?

NO!   OPEN your eyes and LOOK at the print on the white card (CE 639).... See those parallel lines at the left?  Those were made by the bayonet groove that is cut into the foregrip of the model 91/38 carcano rifle. And that proves that the "palm print" lift was taken from the WOODEN foregrip.

[Walt Cakebread]

Thanks for the explanation, Walt.

I wasn't aware of that scenario and, honestly, it seems somewhat far fetched. What is your source for this?

Most of it is the statements of Tom Alyea and about what he saw Detective Day doing in the TSBD that afternoon.

I don't blame you for finding it hard to believe.....  You're still too trusting in the statements of the authorities.

[Alan Ford]

NO!   OPEN your eyes and LOOK at the print on the white card (CE 639).... See those parallel lines at the left?  Those were made by the bayonet groove that is cut into the foregrip of the model 91/38 carcano rifle. And that proves that the "palm print" lift was taken from the WOODEN foregrip.

So what EXACTLY do you mean when you say that "they did manage to change that smudge into the palm print of Lee Oswald after they sent all of the evidence back to the DPD"?