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Offline John Mytton

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Re: A question about Oswald
« Reply #136 on: August 31, 2023, 10:59:19 AM »
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So, you are in fact saying that Oswald's print was indeed on the rifle?

Well duh, of course Oswald's print was on Oswald's rifle, whose print would you expect to see, perhaps the Pope, Elvis Presley or the Queen of England? Hahaha!

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #137 on: August 31, 2023, 01:55:08 PM »
So, you are in fact saying that Oswald's print was indeed on the rifle?

NO!  Emphatically NO!

Detective Day saw a SMUDGE on the wooden foregrip that he imagined to be a palm print while dusting the rifle in the TSBD.   He lifted that SMUDGE "Palm print" wit scotch tape as Tom Alyea watched.   He placed the lifted smudge on a small white  card ( Now know as CE 639).  He turned that white card, along with all of the evidence, over to FBI agent Vince Drain at midnight on 11/22/63.   The FBI were unable to find a useful print on that card.


But they did manage to change that smudge into the palm print of Lee Oswald after they sent all of the evidence back to the DPD. and concoct the tale about Day disassembling the rifle and lifting that print from the metal barrel of the carcano.     

A person can't believe a damned thing the police said about the evidence most of it is created by the lies.

Offline Alan Ford

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« Reply #138 on: August 31, 2023, 10:45:12 PM »
But they did manage to change that smudge into the palm print of Lee Oswald after they sent all of the evidence back to the DPD

Mr. Cakebread, are you saying they used photographic trickery to superimpose Mr. Oswald's palm print onto the smudge on Lt. Day's white card--------and the result was CE639?
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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: A question about Oswald
« Reply #139 on: August 31, 2023, 11:11:08 PM »
NO!  Emphatically NO!

Detective Day saw a SMUDGE on the wooden foregrip that he imagined to be a palm print while dusting the rifle in the TSBD.   He lifted that SMUDGE "Palm print" wit scotch tape as Tom Alyea watched.   He placed the lifted smudge on a small white  card ( Now know as CE 639).  He turned that white card, along with all of the evidence, over to FBI agent Vince Drain at midnight on 11/22/63.   The FBI were unable to find a useful print on that card.


But they did manage to change that smudge into the palm print of Lee Oswald after they sent all of the evidence back to the DPD. and concoct the tale about Day disassembling the rifle and lifting that print from the metal barrel of the carcano.     

A person can't believe a damned thing the police said about the evidence most of it is created by the lies.

Thanks for the explanation, Walt.

I wasn't aware of that scenario and, honestly, it seems somewhat far fetched. What is your source for this?

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Re: A question about Oswald
« Reply #140 on: September 01, 2023, 01:37:35 AM »
Mr. Cakebread, are you saying they used photographic trickery to superimpose Mr. Oswald's palm print onto the smudge on Lt. Day's white card--------and the result was CE639?

NO!   OPEN your eyes and LOOK at the print on the white card (CE 639).... See those parallel lines at the left?  Those were made by the bayonet groove that is cut into the foregrip of the model 91/38 carcano rifle. And that proves that the "palm print" lift was taken from the WOODEN foregrip.

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: A question about Oswald
« Reply #141 on: September 01, 2023, 01:41:38 AM »
Thanks for the explanation, Walt.

I wasn't aware of that scenario and, honestly, it seems somewhat far fetched. What is your source for this?

Most of it is the statements of Tom Alyea and about what he saw Detective Day doing in the TSBD that afternoon.

I don't blame you for finding it hard to believe.....  You're still too trusting in the statements of the authorities.

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« Reply #142 on: September 01, 2023, 01:50:23 AM »
NO!   OPEN your eyes and LOOK at the print on the white card (CE 639).... See those parallel lines at the left?  Those were made by the bayonet groove that is cut into the foregrip of the model 91/38 carcano rifle. And that proves that the "palm print" lift was taken from the WOODEN foregrip.

So what EXACTLY do you mean when you say that "they did manage to change that smudge into the palm print of Lee Oswald after they sent all of the evidence back to the DPD"?

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« Reply #143 on: September 01, 2023, 01:40:50 PM »
So what EXACTLY do you mean when you say that "they did manage to change that smudge into the palm print of Lee Oswald after they sent all of the evidence back to the DPD"?

That is the only way Walt can avoid admitting it was Oswald's print.  Imagine the narrative behind this line of events.

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« Reply #143 on: September 01, 2023, 01:40:50 PM »