Users Currently Browsing This Topic:
0 Members

Author Topic: A question about Oswald  (Read 15861 times)

Online Richard Smith

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5239
Re: A question about Oswald
« Reply #144 on: September 01, 2023, 01:40:50 PM »
Advertisement
So what EXACTLY do you mean when you say that "they did manage to change that smudge into the palm print of Lee Oswald after they sent all of the evidence back to the DPD"?

That is the only way Walt can avoid admitting it was Oswald's print.  Imagine the narrative behind this line of events.

JFK Assassination Forum

Re: A question about Oswald
« Reply #144 on: September 01, 2023, 01:40:50 PM »


Offline Walt Cakebread

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7322
Re: A question about Oswald
« Reply #145 on: September 01, 2023, 02:24:17 PM »
That is the only way Walt can avoid admitting it was Oswald's print.  Imagine the narrative behind this line of events.

The vaunted FBI said that the smudge was Lee's palm print. (After the evidence was sent back to the DPD but when the FBI first examined the smudge on the white card they declared that it was worthless for ID purposes)    Lee Oswald had already been cast in the public eye, as  a deranged killer by the authorities. So who would doubt that his prints were on the rifle even though that was simply a damned lie.

Online Richard Smith

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5239
Re: A question about Oswald
« Reply #146 on: September 01, 2023, 03:45:54 PM »
The vaunted FBI said that the smudge was Lee's palm print. (After the evidence was sent back to the DPD but when the FBI first examined the smudge on the white card they declared that it was worthless for ID purposes)    Lee Oswald had already been cast in the public eye, as  a deranged killer by the authorities. So who would doubt that his prints were on the rifle even though that was simply a damned lie.

Why wouldn't the FBI just claim they found Oswald's prints all over the rifle if they are going to fabricate evidence and had that capability?  They could have claimed they found a dozen of his prints on the rifle.   Why go through this fantasy charade?

JFK Assassination Forum

Re: A question about Oswald
« Reply #146 on: September 01, 2023, 03:45:54 PM »


Offline Jerry Organ

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2414
Re: A question about Oswald
« Reply #147 on: September 01, 2023, 05:05:44 PM »
There were a number of latent and semi-smudged prints on the rifle but the FBI examiner was an old-school stickler requiring a certain degree of lift quality and number of identification points. For a print to be considered for lifting at the FBI then, it had to be visible on the object with enough points through a hand-held magnifying glass. 

It probably worked in the defendant's favor that the FBI could have (but in this case, did not) document partial and smudged prints on the rifle. People just assume that the FBI would necessarily be more advanced than city crime labs. See Peter principal as to why the FBI might have a by-the-book stickler doing fingerprints (Latona had been with the FBI for over 30 years by 1963).

Latona dismissed the trigger-guard housing fingerprints as "of no value" despite his own efforts to photograph them and having Day's photos. It was not until 1993 that the trigger-guard prints were better analyzed by combining the high-quality pictures taken by Day. The results were presented in the outstanding 1993 PBS documentary "Who was Lee Harvey Oswald?".


Offline Alan Ford

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4820
Re: A question about Oswald
« Reply #148 on: September 01, 2023, 06:26:46 PM »

JFK Assassination Forum

Re: A question about Oswald
« Reply #148 on: September 01, 2023, 06:26:46 PM »


Offline Alan Ford

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4820
Re: A question about Oswald
« Reply #149 on: September 01, 2023, 06:28:05 PM »
Still waiting for an explanation from Mr. Cakebread of what exactly he means when he says that "they did manage to change that smudge into the palm print of Lee Oswald after they sent all of the evidence back to the DPD"..................

Offline Walt Cakebread

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7322
Re: A question about Oswald
« Reply #150 on: September 01, 2023, 06:52:05 PM »
Why wouldn't the FBI just claim they found Oswald's prints all over the rifle if they are going to fabricate evidence and had that capability?  They could have claimed they found a dozen of his prints on the rifle.   Why go through this fantasy charade?

Why ....Why...Go eat a fly... And then deny that you ate a fly.

Offline Walt Cakebread

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 7322
Re: A question about Oswald
« Reply #151 on: September 01, 2023, 07:03:33 PM »
Still waiting for an explanation from Mr. Cakebread of what exactly he means when he says that "they did manage to change that smudge into the palm print of Lee Oswald after they sent all of the evidence back to the DPD"..................

Lt Day was at this time at the TSBD and the rifle was at the DPD police station.

WHEN???  I ask you WHEN was the rifle out of Lt Day's possession??    He kept the rifle in his possession after it's discovery  until he took it to the DPD headquarters.

JFK Assassination Forum

Re: A question about Oswald
« Reply #151 on: September 01, 2023, 07:03:33 PM »