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Online Dan O'meara

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Re: Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?
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Offline Michael Welch

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Re: Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?
« Reply #225 on: September 29, 2023, 11:12:52 PM »
Here is another picture of the four girls in a Couch frame gathered around a street lamp pole on Elm Street. Sincerely yours, Michael



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Re: Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?
« Reply #226 on: September 30, 2023, 03:44:05 AM »
If Bakers part of of his story concerning why he headed towards the TSBD is true , then he probably was headed for the front entrance door of TSBD as he got off his motorcycle.

ON THE WAY to those front steps, perhaps was when Bakers path changes slightly as he notices the woman holding the bag.

That slight deviation might not be able to be to so clearly discerned from just the 2 blue computer model lines that Mr. Hackers 3d model that suggest an absolute straight line trek.

So it’s possible Baker did stop for some few seconds of time to see what the bag woman was holding was.

That time delay could have allowed Mr Truly to have joined up with Baker or even for Truly to have ascended the west side steps and enter the TSBD foyer ahead of Baker, who probably came up the east side of the steps (from leaving the woman w/ bag).

Thus  may explain why Molina only saw Truly while Sanders only saw Baker.

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Re: Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?
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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?
« Reply #227 on: September 30, 2023, 09:27:54 AM »
If Bakers part of of his story concerning why he headed towards the TSBD is true , then he probably was headed for the front entrance door of TSBD as he got off his motorcycle.

ON THE WAY to those front steps, perhaps was when Bakers path changes slightly as he notices the woman holding the bag.

That slight deviation might not be able to be to so clearly discerned from just the 2 blue computer model lines that Mr. Hackers 3d model that suggest an absolute straight line trek.

So it’s possible Baker did stop for some few seconds of time to see what the bag woman was holding was.

It's way more than a mere possibility. The evidence in Darnell is clear as day. And the fact that Officer Baker said not a word about this woman or this detour in any of his statements speaks volumes. Quite simply, Darnell exposes his lie about an immediate dash to the front steps. He was told to shut up about what really happened before he entered the TSBD. And so was she.

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That time delay could have allowed Mr Truly to have joined up with Baker or even for Truly to have ascended the west side steps and enter the TSBD foyer ahead of Baker, who probably came up the east side of the steps (from leaving the woman w/ bag).

Thus  may explain why Molina only saw Truly while Sanders only saw Baker.

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Re: Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?
« Reply #228 on: September 30, 2023, 03:14:48 PM »
If Bakers part of of his story concerning why he headed towards the TSBD is true , then he probably was headed for the front entrance door of TSBD as he got off his motorcycle.

ON THE WAY to those front steps, perhaps was when Bakers path changes slightly as he notices the woman holding the bag.

That slight deviation might not be able to be to so clearly discerned from just the 2 blue computer model lines that Mr. Hackers 3d model that suggest an absolute straight line trek.

So it’s possible Baker did stop for some few seconds of time to see what the bag woman was holding was.

That time delay could have allowed Mr Truly to have joined up with Baker or even for Truly to have ascended the west side steps and enter the TSBD foyer ahead of Baker, who probably came up the east side of the steps (from leaving the woman w/ bag).

Thus  may explain why Molina only saw Truly while Sanders only saw Baker.
"Mr. Hackers" LOL
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Re: Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?
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Offline Frederick Clements

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Re: Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?
« Reply #229 on: October 01, 2023, 01:56:47 PM »
If only NBC would just release the original films this whole issue of PM could be sorted out.

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Re: Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?
« Reply #230 on: October 01, 2023, 03:38:19 PM »
If only NBC would just release the original films this whole issue of PM could be sorted out.

 Fred

No need. It has already been sorted out-------Prayer Man in Darnell is not Mr. Oswald (nor is she Mrs. Sarah Stanton).

Mr. Oswald was indeed on the west side of that doorway when Pres. Kennedy was passing the building. But he's already gone by the time of Darnell.

Ten years ago, Prayer Man in Darnell emerged as a focus of justifiably enormous interest. But now it's just a distraction from the all-important question: Where exactly did LHO go when he "went outside to watch P. Parade"?



Turns out the answer has in fact been hidden in plain sight in the Hughes film all these years. Hughes shows Mr. Oswald taking a drink from the Coke he had shortly before bought from the machine in the second-floor lunchroom:



The longstanding erroneous assumption that this reddish-shirted man is Mr. Billy Lovelady caused all the confusion

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Re: Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?
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Offline Michael Welch

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Re: Where Did Prayer Woman Go After The Shooting?
« Reply #231 on: October 01, 2023, 03:43:28 PM »
I just found this Gerda Dunckel gif of a Bell film frame, in it you will see three workers dressed in their grey colored service station uniforms to the left of the Cowboy in White, who I think is probably Malcolm Price. It is probably one of these three service station men who is already on the TSBD's steps who has been misidentified as Billy Lovelady in Darnell. In this second Gerda gif, a second service station man is headed for the TSBD's steps while the third service station man is watching him. To the left is another group of ladies in white and black heading for the TSBD's steps as well; thus showing there were ladies in black and white in the area that could also be on the steps with the first service station man. Sincerely yours, Michael



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