RIP to the Single-bullet theory?

[Michael Capasse]

FFS, it’s Tague, not Teague.

OOPs - I fixed them  - thank you

[Jon Banks]

I think the Nutters should have a meeting over this Landis story.

Gerald Posner’s comments about Landis surprised me:


“He (Landis) was there,” Posner said during an appearance on “Elizabeth Vargas Reports.” “He was in the car right behind the president. He has a recollection. … I’m assuming that he’s telling the truth. … I think he actually has provided the evidence, after all these years, as to how the single bullet ended up falling off a gurney after the president’s body was taken back to Washington.”

https://www.newsnationnow.com/vargasreports/account-jfk-assassination-posner/

[Richard Smith]

Gerald Posner’s comments about Landis surprised me:


“He (Landis) was there,” Posner said during an appearance on “Elizabeth Vargas Reports.” “He was in the car right behind the president. He has a recollection. … I’m assuming that he’s telling the truth. … I think he actually has provided the evidence, after all these years, as to how the single bullet ended up falling off a gurney after the president’s body was taken back to Washington.”

https://www.newsnationnow.com/vargasreports/account-jfk-assassination-posner/

Landis indicated on CNN that he put the bullet on a table in the exam room.  I don't believe him.  Any possibility that it was the third bullet and got lost?

[Charles Collins]

Feb. ? that's funny.
https://jfk.boards.net/post/3595

MEMORANDUM | April 27, 1964

TO: J. Lee Rankin
FROM: Norman Redlich

Our report presumably will state that the President was hit by the first bullet,
Governor Connally by the second, and the President by the third and fatal bullet.

 In April they still needed to test their SBT. The reenactment took place in May. Your bogus claim is that “Tague caused it.” He didn’t, they already had figured it out.

[Michael Capasse]

In April they still needed to test their SBT. The reenactment took place in May. Your bogus claim is that “Tague caused it.” He didn’t, they already had figured it out.

test it out...

No, Tague could not be ignored. By the end of April they had testimony re: ricochet bullets. That was not yet pubilc
"The Buddy Walthers bullet" was exposed in "Red Roses from Texas" from Turkish author Nerin E. Gun, was released in the UK Jan 01, 1964.
That was pubic  - Tague was out in the beginning of June  - that was public -- He had to be addressed directly

In a meeting of Jan 27, Belin, Ball, Eisenberg, and Redlich, FBI: Shanyfelt, and SS: Kelley, and Howlett are trying to compare Z film with Nix
There is nothing in the record of anything other than 3 shots - 3 hits until May 3rd when the FBI began their reenactments.
And there was nothing to test, all Shaneyfelt had to do was position the men to create the possibility of a SB.

WC End of April:
Our report presumably will state that the President was hit by the first bullet, Governor Connally by the second, and the President by the third and fatal bullet.
The report will also conclude that the bullets were fired by one person located in the sixth floor southeast corner window of the TSBD building.

James Tague:
“They had to go back and rewrite the Warren Commission, that’s where the magic bullet came from.  That’s the only thing they could come up with.
That one bullet went through two people.”

[Jack Nessan]

    The WC was working on a 2 shot scenario until the news that James Teague had been scratched in his cheek area as the result of a bullet fragment or debris from a bullet strike/richochet. Teague was standing close to the Triple Underpass somewhat between Main and Commerce St. Once this info drifted down to the WC, it was back to the drawing board.
     I believe that reading the Original Report that Landis filed would explain his long term silence regarding his alleged bullet retrieval. In that Original Report, Landis details from his running board position on the Queen Mary, "The only person I recall seeing clearly was a Negro male in light green slacks and a beige colored shirt running from my left to right, up the slope, across a grassy section, along a sidewalk, towards some steps and what appeared to be a low stone wall. He was bent over while running and I started to point towards him, but he didn't have anything in his hands and by this time we were going under the overpass at a very high rate of speed. I was looking back and saw a motorcycle policeman stopping along the curb approximately adjacent to where I saw the Negro running". With there being not a single image or assassination eyewitness to corroborate this detailed Landis citing of a colorfully dressed running man, I believe he became the butt of many, many running jokes among his SS colleagues. Hence, his bullet retrieval silence. I do believe if Landis did find a bullet, he fully understood then and going forward the significance of his find. Getting back to his Original Statement, the part I find interesting is his detailing seeing, "a motorcycle policeman ......". Landis would seem to be describing Motorcycle Officer Haygood, but the Queen Mary with Landis aboard was well on its' way to Parkland Hospital by the time that Haygood wrestled with his motorcycle at the Elm St curb. With there being next day newspaper reports that were soon documented by eyewitness testimony of a motorcycle going UP the knoll, the Landis description of a motorcycle cop at the curb is also worthy of being looked at closely.         

That is not elaborating on what you stated, it is just repeating and evading an explanation for your statement. Obviously, you just made up the whole two shot analysis by the WC. Here is a copy of the Ball/Belin report, which is basically what was known on Feb 25, 1964 and the direction in which the WC investigators felt they should proceed.

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/Ball-Belin%20Report.pdf

Nowhere in the report is a discussion on why there were or were not only two shots. Definitely Tague played no real role in the understanding of the assassination. It is apparent you understand the huge ramifications of Landis’s two shot statement concerning a single jacketed bullet striking both JFK and JBC, and the fact Landis reiterated it 60 years later only strengthens it.

 
There are two glaring discrepancies in his statements, as to a bullet even being in a position to have been found on the back of the limo . The first being the continued two shot narrative and the second was the "undercharged" shell and not realizing what the performance of such a cartridge would be is a huge red flag as to Landis's credibility. Do you not understand the reason that an undercharged cartridge is such a nonsense suggestion?

[Charles Collins]

test it out...

No, Tague could not be ignored. By the end of April they had testimony re: ricochet bullets. That was not yet pubilc
"The Buddy Walthers bullet" was exposed in "Red Roses from Texas" from Turkish author Nerin E. Gun, was released in the UK Jan 01, 1964.
That was pubic  - Tague was out in the beginning of June  - that was public -- He had to be addressed directly

In a meeting of Jan 27, Belin, Ball, Eisenberg, and Redlich, FBI: Shanyfelt, and SS: Kelley, and Howlett are trying to compare Z film with Nix
There is nothing in the record of anything other than 3 shots - 3 hits until May 3rd when the FBI began their reenactments.
And there was nothing to test, all Shaneyfelt had to do was position the men to create the possibility of a SB.

WC End of April:
Our report presumably will state that the President was hit by the first bullet, Governor Connally by the second, and the President by the third and fatal bullet.
The report will also conclude that the bullets were fired by one person located in the sixth floor southeast corner window of the TSBD building.

James Tague:
“They had to go back and rewrite the Warren Commission, that’s where the magic bullet came from.  That’s the only thing they could come up with.
That one bullet went through two people.”

Willens’ book is based on his journal that he kept contemporaneously with the progress the Warren Commission made. The Sixth Floor Museum has the journal and has made it available online for whoever wants to read it. They also have a series of interviews of Willens in which he discusses his journal, etc. I suggest that you do a little research in the resources that Willens has provided.

[Jon Banks]

The FBI, in their investigation during the immediate aftermath of the Kennedy assassination, didn’t consider the idea that Kennedy and Connolly were struck by the same bullet. They also didn’t consider the idea that at least one shot missed.

James Tague’s injury is what led to the birth of the Single-Bullet theory.

The single–bullet theory was developed in three stages:

Stage 1: December 1963

The FBI’s report into the assassination matched the wounds to the three bullets in the following way:

one bullet caused all of Governor Connally’s wounds by passing through his torso and shattering his right wrist;

one bullet caused President Kennedy’s fatal head wound;

and one bullet caused one of Kennedy’s non–fatal wounds by entering his back, but did not cause his throat wound.2

Stage 2: March 1964

The Warren Commission modified this explanation by assuming that Kennedy’s throat wound had been caused by the same bullet that had caused his back wound.

Stage 3: June 1964

When the wounding of the bystander, James Tague, was unexpectedly made public, the commission became obliged to use the only plausible explanation that would account for all of the wounds having been inflicted by just three bullets:

one bullet caused Tague’s wound;

one bullet caused President Kennedy’s fatal head wound;

and one bullet caused all of Kennedy’s and Connally’s non–fatal wounds by entering Kennedy’s back, exiting through his throat, entering Connally’s back, exiting his chest, passing through his right wrist, and lodging itself in his left thigh: the single–bullet theory.

http://22november1963.org.uk/single-bullet-theory-jfk-assassination