RIP to the Single-bullet theory?

[Charles Collins]

    After my spit-shine observation, you reveal that his real "contemporaneous" notes are buried somewhere in The Archives. Now, the "complete DOCUMENT" is available via the Sixth Floor Museum website? There is Only 1 "contemporaneous" DOCUMENT.  This DOCUMENT can not be in 2 places at the same time. As I mentioned earlier, this is right out of the Dr Humes autopsy notes dodge.   

Are you going to back up your claim, or just play the suspicions and innuendo game? Sixty years of suspicions and innuendo have only made the CT community look ridiculous.

[Royell Storing]

Are you going to back up your claim, or just play the suspicions and innuendo game? Sixty years of suspicions and innuendo have only made the CT community look ridiculous.

   Nice try. YOUR claim was these were "contemporaneous" notes you were posting. By your own admission, what you posted has been sanitized. Truth in advertising needs to be adhered to.

[Charles Collins]

   Nice try. YOUR claim was these were "contemporaneous" notes you were posting. By your own admission, what you posted has been sanitized. Truth in advertising needs to be adhered to.

A journal kept contemporaneously that has some typographical errors corrected. Your suspicions and innuendo about something being “sanitized” are ridiculous. Anyone who wants to believe your nutty idea can review the original document in the archives. Apparently you aren’t willing to back up any of your ridiculous claims.

[Jon Banks]

Paul Landis Interview

James Robenalt interview

[Richard Smith]

Landis makes a clear distinction here between the examination table and stretcher.  In fact, he says they were in the process of removing JFK from the stretcher to place him on the table when he puts the bullet down.  The explanation from Robenalt makes less sense if that is Landis recollection.  He suggests that Landis wanted the bullet and body to be together for the autopsy.  But according to Landis, JFK was no longer on the stretcher.  Landis is also confused about the basic facts since he says the "magic" bullet was the one which hit JFK's head.  He has also changed his story here to suggest doubt as to Oswald's guilt.  The notion that Jackie dislodged the bullet is laughable.

[Jon Banks]

Landis makes a clear distinction here between the examination table and stretcher.  In fact, he says they were in the process of removing JFK from the stretcher to place him on the table when he puts the bullet down.  The explanation from Robenalt makes less sense if that is Landis recollection.  He suggests that Landis wanted the bullet and body to be together for the autopsy.  But according to Landis, JFK was no longer on the stretcher.  Landis is also confused about the basic facts since he says the "magic" bullet was the one which hit JFK's head.  He has also changed his story here to suggest doubt as to Oswald's guilt.  The notion that Jackie dislodged the bullet is laughable.

Given how chaotic and traumatic that day was, it doesn't surprise me if he misremembers some details. I don't hold that against him.

He seems credible and while I give him some wiggle room on the details of what happened at Parkland, I don't think the detail of 'where' in the limo he found the bullet is easily forgotten or misremembered. I don't think a Secret Service agent, whose duty it was to protect the First lady, would mistake Governor Connolly's seat in the limo for Jackie and the President's.

The biggest problem I see with his recent account is that in the past, as early as 1983, he said he found a "bullet fragment" in the rear seat of the limo. Today, he's saying he found an intact bullet. There's a huge difference between a bullet fragment and a somewhat pristine bullet. The author of the book says Landis was misquoted in 1983 but I haven't seen Landis challenged directly on conflicting statements he's made in the past in recent interviews.

[Richard Smith]

Given how chaotic and traumatic that day was, it doesn't surprise me if he misremembers some details. I don't hold that against him.

He seems credible and while I give him some wiggle room on the details of what happened at Parkland, I don't think the detail of 'where' in the limo he found the bullet is easily forgotten or misremembered. I don't think a Secret Service agent, whose duty it was to protect the First lady, would mistake Governor Connolly's seat in the limo for Jackie and the President's.

The biggest problem I see with his recent account is that in the past, as early as 1983, he said he found a "bullet fragment" in the rear seat of the limo. Today, he's saying he found an intact bullet. There's a huge difference between a bullet fragment and a somewhat pristine bullet. The author of the book says Landis was misquoted in 1983 but I haven't seen Landis challenged directly on conflicting statements he's made in the past in recent interviews.

Those are some big details.  He thinks the bullet that he is talking about is the one that struck JFK's head.  He says that he put the bullet on the examination table instead of the gurney.  He said previously that he hadn't followed the case but here cites reading a CTer book about the magic bullet.  Previously he took a neutral approach to implications of his finding the bullet.  Here he is arguing that it means that Oswald was not the assassin.  The other guy is not much better.  I don't think Landis is lying.  I do think he is being manipulated by folks with an agenda who are out to make a buck.   He is still claiming he found the bullet fragments.  I don't think that is conflicting, but now he also claiming to have found an intact bullet.  I can't believe he would confirm finding the bullet fragments in his original report but omit reference to finding an entire bullet.  That doesn't add up.

[David Von Pein]

Landis makes a clear distinction here between the examination table and stretcher.  In fact, he says they were in the process of removing JFK from the stretcher to place him on the table when he puts the bullet down.

Which is definitely not accurate. We know from the testimony of the Parkland witnesses that JFK was ALWAYS on his stretcher when he was being treated. Confirmed by Dr. McClelland (and others too):


Mr. SPECTER - Was he on the stretcher at all times?

Dr. McCLELLAND - Yes.

Mr. SPECTER - In the trauma room No. 1 you described, is there any table onto which he could be placed from the stretcher?

Dr. McCLELLAND - No; generally we do not move patients from the stretcher until they are ready to go into the operating room and then they are moved onto the operating table.

Mr. SPECTER - Well, in fact, was he left on the stretcher all during the course of these procedures until he was pronounced dead?

Dr. McCLELLAND - That's right.

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Perhaps Landis means that they were in the process of moving Kennedy from the stretcher to the CASKET, vs. moving him to an EXAM TABLE.

~shrug~