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Offline David Von Pein

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Re: RIP to the Single-bullet theory?
« Reply #200 on: September 17, 2023, 12:36:11 AM »
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I can't believe he would confirm finding the bullet fragments in his original report but omit reference to finding an entire bullet.

But Landis doesn't confirm any such finding of even bullet FRAGMENTS in his two reports from Nov. '63. He doesn't say a word about finding ANY type of "bullet" item(s) here:

https://www.jfk-assassination.net/russ/m_j_russ/Sa-landi.htm
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Re: RIP to the Single-bullet theory?
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Offline Zeon Mason

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Re: RIP to the Single-bullet theory?
« Reply #201 on: September 17, 2023, 12:43:50 AM »
I think an experiment might be in order since Greer accelerated the limo to a rate that one has to wonder if a bullet would remain on the top of the limo as such round cylinder stair objects have little friction ti keep them in place in sudden changes of velocity.

Was the bullet wedged in a gap or something?

Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: RIP to the Single-bullet theory?
« Reply #202 on: September 17, 2023, 01:03:20 AM »
But Landis doesn't confirm any such finding of even bullet FRAGMENTS in his two reports from Nov. '63. He doesn't say a word about finding ANY type of "bullet" item(s) here:

https://www.jfk-assassination.net/russ/m_j_russ/Sa-landi.htm

Not one DPD officer who was with Oswald in the car after his arrest reported that a Hidell ID was found in his wallet.
Lt Day failed to report, for several days, that he had lifted a print from the rifle before it was handed over to the FBI on Friday evening.
No FBI agent reported that he showed Michael Paine a BY photo on Friday evening.
FBI agent Odum never wrote a report about him (allegedly) having shown CE399 to Tomlinson and Wright.

Are we to believe none of these things happened, simply because it wasn't mentioned in a report?

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Offline David Von Pein

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Re: RIP to the Single-bullet theory?
« Reply #203 on: September 17, 2023, 01:14:50 AM »
...Are we to believe none of these things happened, simply because it wasn't mentioned in a report?

And, therefore, I guess we're supposed to believe that when Paul Landis wrote his very lengthy report on 11/30/63, this was his state of mind:

I'd better mention in my written report these three rather unimportant things that I saw and took into the hospital with me (the hat, the purse, and the cigarette lighter), but I don't think I really need to mention anything about this WHOLE BULLET that I also took into Parkland Hospital and placed at the foot of President Kennedy's stretcher.

Yeah, why don't we all just go ahead and believe that was truly Paul E. Landis' state of mind on November 30, 1963.


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Offline Jon Banks

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Re: RIP to the Single-bullet theory?
« Reply #204 on: September 17, 2023, 01:37:43 AM »
And, therefore, I guess we're supposed to believe that when Paul Landis wrote his very lengthy report on 11/30/63, this was his state of mind:

I'd better mention in my written report these three rather innocuous and unimportant things that I saw and took into the hospital with me (the hat, the purse, and the cigarette lighter), but I don't think I really need to mention anything about this WHOLE BULLET that I also took into Parkland Hospital and placed at the foot of President Kennedy's stretcher.

Yeah, why don't we all just go ahead and believe that was truly Paul E. Landis' state of mind on November 30, 1963.



If you didn’t follow the proper procedures for discovering evidence and creating a chain of custody, would you mention the evidence in your report?

First question: “Where’s the bullet?”

How would his superiors have responded if he said he left it on a stretcher or operating table?


What we do know is that a different SS agent at Parkland put a bullet found near a stretcher in his pocket and brought it to DC. Which also doesn’t seem like a good way to handle evidence.

The question has always been, did the bullet come from Governor Connolly’s stretcher or Kennedy’s?

Even if we exclude Landis’ story, there’s other witnesses who saw a bullet on Kennedy’s stretcher at Parkland.

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Offline David Von Pein

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Re: RIP to the Single-bullet theory?
« Reply #205 on: September 17, 2023, 01:42:20 AM »
If you didn’t follow the proper procedures for discovering evidence and creating a chain of custody, would you mention the evidence in your report?

Yes, I would.

I'd like to think I'm honest enough to do that. And I would have also included in my report the REASON for why I moved the piece of evidence in the first place.
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Re: RIP to the Single-bullet theory?
« Reply #206 on: September 17, 2023, 02:02:46 AM »
And, therefore, I guess we're supposed to believe that when Paul Landis wrote his very lengthy report on 11/30/63, this was his state of mind:

I'd better mention in my written report these three rather unimportant things that I saw and took into the hospital with me (the hat, the purse, and the cigarette lighter), but I don't think I really need to mention anything about this WHOLE BULLET that I also took into Parkland Hospital and placed at the foot of President Kennedy's stretcher.

Yeah, why don't we all just go ahead and believe that was truly Paul E. Landis' state of mind on November 30, 1963.



And thank you for implicity confirming that we can not rely on what any law enforcement officer failed to mention in their day one report....  Thumb1:

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Re: RIP to the Single-bullet theory?
« Reply #207 on: September 17, 2023, 02:03:11 AM »
If you didn’t follow the proper procedures for discovering evidence and creating a chain of custody, would you mention the evidence in your report?

First question: “Where’s the bullet?”

How would his superiors have responded if he said he left it on a stretcher or operating table?


What we do know is that a different SS agent at Parkland put a bullet found near a stretcher in his pocket and brought it to DC. Which also doesn’t seem like a good way to handle evidence.

The question has always been, did the bullet come from Governor Connolly’s stretcher or Kennedy’s?

Even if we exclude Landis’ story, there’s other witnesses who saw a bullet on Kennedy’s stretcher at Parkland.

A bullet fell from Connally's stretcher as he was being moved onto the operating table and was picked up by a nurse who showed it to Henry Wade who told her to give it to a police officer. She gave it to Bob Nolan who put it on Fritz's desk. By the time it reached the FBI lab it had miraculously changed into four small fragments taken from Connally's wrist.

Tomlinson found a "hunting slug" with a pointed tip which he gave to O. P. Wright who gave it to SA Johnsen. He gave it to his chief, Rowley, and by the time it reached the FBI lab it had miraculously changed into CE399.

Any bullet found on JFK's stretcher just disappeared.

And so it goes.


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Re: RIP to the Single-bullet theory?
« Reply #207 on: September 17, 2023, 02:03:11 AM »