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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #35 on: March 13, 2018, 04:43:46 PM »
Tim, if you can't see it as is, arrows won't help.

That was the excuse you used for not pointing out the alleged "rifle butt imprint" on the three tramps photo as well.

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« Reply #36 on: March 13, 2018, 06:15:10 PM »
That was the excuse you used for not pointing out the alleged "rifle butt imprint" on the three tramps photo as well.


            There's a You Tube presentation done by Leroy Blevins Sr addressing the Tramp Rifle Butt Imprint issue. In that presentation Blevins presents a photo that does appear to display some sort of imprint on 1 of the tramps jacket or shirt. (forget exactly what apparel the tramp is wearing). It is alleged to be the imprint from the Metal Plate/Strip attached to the butt of a rifle. The Blevins narrative is that when the rifle was pressed firmly against the tramps shirt/jacket it left this impression. There is also alleged to be an imprint or imprints  from the screws that attached the Plate/Strip to the rifle butt that are also visible on the tramp photo. It is an interesting theory.
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« Reply #37 on: March 25, 2018, 08:11:02 PM »
Royell,

Take a look at the Mark Bell film.  Look at what Ms. Sitzman does there.  Compare that with what she said in her interview with Isiah Thomson in November 1966.  At the 53 second mark of the Mark Bell film, you can see Ms. Sitzman and Mr. Zapruder.  You see Mr. Zapruder heading towards the TSBD and Ms. Sitzman entering the Pergola.

In her November 1966 interview, http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/sitzman.txt she states that she ran down the hill, then when back up the hill and then entered the pergola.  She also said that someone identified themselves as being an FBI agent when she went back up the hill.

Her 1966 interview does not reflect what the film evidence shows.



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« Reply #38 on: March 26, 2018, 04:02:29 PM »
Royell,

Take a look at the Mark Bell film.  Look at what Ms. Sitzman does there.  Compare that with what she said in her interview with Isiah Thomson in November 1966.  At the 53 second mark of the Mark Bell film, you can see Ms. Sitzman and Mr. Zapruder.  You see Mr. Zapruder heading towards the TSBD and Ms. Sitzman entering the Pergola.

In her November 1966 interview, http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/sitzman.txt she states that she ran down the hill, then when back up the hill and then entered the pergola.  She also said that someone identified themselves as being an FBI agent when she went back up the hill.

Her 1966 interview does not reflect what the film evidence shows.


        Yeah. I have previously commented about the discrepancy between what we are seeing on the Bell Film vs Sitzman's interview by Tink Thompson. Sitzman said that after she ran back UP the Knoll, she encountered an alleged G-Man who showed her his ID. AFTER that encounter, she then went inside the Shelter. Perhaps the individual we are seeing on the Bell Film is Not Zapruder. Maybe we are seeing the alleged G-Man referred to by Sitzman in her Thompson interview. If this is the Sitzman referenced G-Man, it would attach a different Time Line to that segment of the Bell Film vs the Time Line which has been cavalierly assigned to it for over 50 years.

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« Reply #39 on: March 26, 2018, 06:08:37 PM »
Royell,

As you know I contend that there where two shooters in that shelter.  Having a supposed FBI "Agent" there gives more credence to shooters in the shelter.  I do however feel that the person in the film is Mr. Zapruder unless Mr. Bell cut the film and Ms. Sitzman somehow when down the hill.  As I stated before, I take peoples testimony with a grain of salt.  I rather rely on photographic and film evidence to come up with my conclusions.

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« Reply #40 on: March 26, 2018, 08:48:03 PM »
Royell,

As you know I contend that there where two shooters in that shelter.  Having a supposed FBI "Agent" there gives more credence to shooters in the shelter.  I do however feel that the person in the film is Mr. Zapruder unless Mr. Bell cut the film and Ms. Sitzman somehow when down the hill.  As I stated before, I take peoples testimony with a grain of salt.  I rather rely on photographic and film evidence to come up with my conclusions.

         I understand different people Seeing something and then having differing interpretations of what they saw. What I do Not understand is the Numerous Missing Images relating to the JFK Assassination. (1) There are absolutely NO IMAGES of SA Lem Johns on foot inside Dealey Plaza. NONE. Johns allegedly jumped out of the LBJ SS Follow-Up car and was left stranded/Standing in the Middle of Elm St as the JFK Motorcade sped away. How is it there are Absolutely NO IMAGES of SA Lem Johns? (2) There are absolutely NO IMAGES of Motorcycle Officer Hargis running UP to the, "little brick wall", or running from that "little brick wall" to a light post on Elm St. Hargis gave WC Testimony as to doing this, and that testimony was Corroborated by Officer McLane's WC testimony. How is it there are Absolutely NO IMAGES of Hargis running Up the knoll to the "little brick wall" or Down the Knoll from that wall to the light post?  (3) There are Absolutely NO IMAGES of AP Photogragher Ike Altgens following law enforcement UP the Knoll, or Altgens coming back DOWN the Knoll. He gave WC testimony as to doing this. How is it that there are Absolutely NO IMAGES of Altgens at any point doing any of this? (4) There are absolutely NO IMAGES of the Mayor Cabell Car exiting Dealey Plaza. The Cabell Car was directly behind the LBJ SS Follow-Up Car. (The same car that SA Lem Johns allegedly jumped out of). How is it that there are Absolutely NO IMAGES of the Cabell Car on Elm St/Exiting Dealey Plaza after the Kill Shot?  ALL of these Missing Images, (there are more), occurred in the same geographic space. Elm St & The Knoll stretching from The Steps to the Stemmons Sign. ALL of these Missing Images constitute a Dealey Plaza Black Hole.

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« Reply #41 on: March 27, 2018, 03:20:20 PM »
         I understand different people Seeing something and then having differing interpretations of what they saw. What I do Not understand is the Numerous Missing Images relating to the JFK Assassination. (1) There are absolutely NO IMAGES of SA Lem Johns on foot inside Dealey Plaza. NONE. Johns allegedly jumped out of the LBJ SS Follow-Up car and was left stranded/Standing in the Middle of Elm St as the JFK Motorcade sped away. How is it there are Absolutely NO IMAGES of SA Lem Johns? (2) There are absolutely NO IMAGES of Motorcycle Officer Hargis running UP to the, "little brick wall", or running from that "little brick wall" to a light post on Elm St. Hargis gave WC Testimony as to doing this, and that testimony was Corroborated by Officer McLane's WC testimony. How is it there are Absolutely NO IMAGES of Hargis running Up the knoll to the "little brick wall" or Down the Knoll from that wall to the light post?  (3) There are Absolutely NO IMAGES of AP Photogragher Ike Altgens following law enforcement UP the Knoll, or Altgens coming back DOWN the Knoll. He gave WC testimony as to doing this. How is it that there are Absolutely NO IMAGES of Altgens at any point doing any of this? (4) There are absolutely NO IMAGES of the Mayor Cabell Car exiting Dealey Plaza. The Cabell Car was directly behind the LBJ SS Follow-Up Car. (The same car that SA Lem Johns allegedly jumped out of). How is it that there are Absolutely NO IMAGES of the Cabell Car on Elm St/Exiting Dealey Plaza after the Kill Shot?  ALL of these Missing Images, (there are more), occurred in the same geographic space. Elm St & The Knoll stretching from The Steps to the Stemmons Sign. ALL of these Missing Images constitute a Dealey Plaza Black Hole.


Nonsense.  Many of the people didn't turn their cameras on or have them focused on areas that would have captured some of the things you claim are suspicious because they're not on film. Patsy Paschall just missed capturing the vehicle the mayor was traveling in because she shut her camera off, so what's the big deal? Same with Bell.  The black hole you mention is nothing but a figment of your paranoid imagination, Storing.  And just how do you know Altgens wasn't captured in some of the footage coming back down the knoll? You don't because you don't know exactly where Altgens went to or when.  And H.B. McLain(Not "McLane") didn't testify before the Warren Commission. And how do you know that there is no footage of Lem Johns still in DP?  Have you positively ID'd each and every person captured in film footage? Of course you haven't.  As for Hargis, just because none of the witnesses with camera's didn't turn their camera's on and capture Hargis running to the "brick wall" (there is no brick wall by the way) doesn't mean anything except that they didn't capture Hargis running to the wall. He had plenty of time to run to the retaining wall, look around, then down to the light pole before Bell turned his camera on.  Have you been to Dealey Plaza and seen just how tiny that place is is?