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Re: Yet Another Shooter??
« Reply #40 on: October 26, 2023, 09:53:07 PM »
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It doesn't show the north end of the picket fence.
That's the point I'm making.
How do you explain your assertion that we can see the north end of the picket fence in this video when it is not shown.
There's no point asking you what this video has got to do with the topic at hand as it doesn't show the area we're talking about.
You seem to be all talk, Royell.
Time to back it up.

     Not only do we see the (N) end of the Picket Fence, we also see the side of The Shelter too. I'll give you a tip when viewing film clips, still frames, or photos. Find a known Land Mark, focus on that, and then work from point. In this Holland interview, your Land Mark would be the large tree. I'm gonna take the high road here and just say, "You're Welcome".

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« Reply #41 on: October 26, 2023, 10:04:34 PM »
Someone, (Denis?) posted a very clear cropped version of Towner3 at Denis Morrissette’s Facebook group. We now can tell there is no gun, vaulting pole, Pogo Stick or whatever our fertile minds can vision. We can see now the thin purse strap held or wrapped around the left forearm of Marylin Sitzman!



   That Towner 3 Crop on the (L) is lifted from Groden's "The Killing Of A President". Thanks for posting that still frame from what serves as the Intro to the Zapruder Film. Mostly cropped out of that still frame on the (R) Bottom is Mr Hester. He is sitting on an cement abutment that extends outward from the Shelter. Mr Hester seated on that abutment gives the viewer an idea as to the height above the ground a person standing on it would achieve. Long story short = Not Much. This is exactly why that guy/kid pictured on Towner 3 is NOT standing on said abutment extending out of the other shelter. There's no way standing on such would place his knees at the very top of the picket fence/pickets we see on his (L).
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Re: Yet Another Shooter??
« Reply #42 on: October 26, 2023, 10:44:34 PM »
     Not only do we see the (N) end of the Picket Fence, we also see the side of The Shelter too. I'll give you a tip when viewing film clips, still frames, or photos. Find a known Land Mark, focus on that, and then work from point. In this Holland interview, your Land Mark would be the large tree. I'm gonna take the high road here and just say, "You're Welcome".

This is the furthest point along the picket fence in the video.
At no point do we see the end of the picket fence.


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Re: Yet Another Shooter??
« Reply #43 on: October 26, 2023, 11:26:28 PM »
Royell predicted earlier this year that we really do not know if the couple that threw their bottles down were the couple with the little baby boy or a completely different couple. Apparently they were a completely different couple. Gordon Arnold said that there were two couples near him. One couple had a baby boy who would not keep quiet and drove him crazy. This couple with the baby boy were in no hurry to leave. This Murray photo is time stamped at 12:42pm. The mother and little buy in white have moved to the concrete island near the TSBD. Sincerely yours, Michael


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Re: Yet Another Shooter??
« Reply #44 on: October 26, 2023, 11:27:40 PM »
   That Towner 3 Crop on the (L) is lifted from Groden's "The Killing Of A President". Thanks for posting that still frame from what serves as the Intro to the Zapruder Film. Mostly cropped out of that still frame on the (R) Bottom is Mr Hester. He is sitting on an cement abutment that extends outward from the Shelter. Mr Hester seated on that abutment gives the viewer an idea as to the height above the ground a person standing on it would achieve. Long story short = Not Much. This is exactly why that guy/kid pictured on Towner 3 is NOT standing on said abutment extending out of the other shelter. There's no way standing on such would place his knees at the very top of the picket fence/pickets we see on his (L).
The steps abutment Mr. Hester sits on is two full steps lower (11-12”) than Sitzman’s. Plenty of height for Ms. Sitzman.



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« Reply #45 on: October 27, 2023, 12:19:41 AM »
This is the furthest point along the picket fence in the video.
At no point do we see the end of the picket fence.



    I never said you could, "see the end of the picket fence". That guy/kid on Towner 3 is not at, "the end of the fence".

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« Reply #46 on: October 27, 2023, 12:33:15 AM »
Royell predicted earlier this year that we really do not know if the couple that threw their bottles down were the couple with the little baby boy or a completely different couple. Apparently they were a completely different couple. Gordon Arnold said that there were two couples near him. One couple had a baby boy who would not keep quiet and drove him crazy. This couple with the baby boy were in no hurry to leave. This Murray photo is time stamped at 12:42pm. The mother and little buy in white have moved to the concrete island near the TSBD. Sincerely yours, Michael


    With Sitzman being the only person to claim seeing a couple sitting on the bench, I'm not rubber stamping that claim/ID. I took the Arnold reference to a loud boy as being attached to the Newman family. The Newman's permitted their boy to play with a pair of pliers there on the knoll, so the kid musta been a handful and they were doing whatever they could to occupy him/his time. I thought maybe the boy stood out to Arnold due to the racket he was making, and he overlooked the quieter girl. Just my opinion, but I place the bench behind Arnold a little bit. The couples being referenced by Arnold I believe were in Front of him. This is why I thought his mentioning 2 couples was very interesting. I believe he was talking about a currently unknown couple. 

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Re: Yet Another Shooter??
« Reply #47 on: October 27, 2023, 12:37:49 AM »
The steps abutment Mr. Hester sits on is two full steps lower (11-12”) than Sitzman’s. Plenty of height for Ms. Sitzman.


   Take note that Towner 3 shows OPEN SPACE between that guy/kid and the shelter. You put that individual on the top step or maybe even 1 step lower and that open space would be filled. The Top step puts him partially inside the shelter. That space we are seeing between the individual and the shelter and how high he is on the picket fence puts him on the picket fence. Also, this individual would need to be standing sideways/profile in order to be standing with his back to the camera in order to be projected face forward onto the fence.
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