From Behind the Fence

[Royell Storing]

The SS is a federal agency.  There was no federal crime committed that day.  What authority would they have to investigate or arrest someone for a state crime (i.e. murder)? Their primary responsibility is to protect the president.  Even until today, they have very limited law enforcement authority over certain financial crimes such as counterfeit of US currency and forgery.  It is silly to suggest that they should have stopped in the danger zone to investigate.  They did exactly the right thing and got the president to the hospital and the VP out of danger.

    With regard to what you are saying above, what Authority did the SS have to demand/take possession of JFK's body? And, there is nothing "silly" about having a SS Agent or 2 leave the Queen Mary in order to have the "6" of the POTUS. Not sure what the value of that AR-15 is when confined to the back seat of the Queen Mary. The possibility of "friendly fire" also rules out firing it at anything in the 10-2 O'Clock line of fire.   

[Fergus O'Brien]

Fergus o'brien wrote: i am aware shall we say of perhaps some pressure being put on (Dr. Malcolm Perry) to sort of back track if you will, in terms of the throat wound being an entrance wound. and later he would as we know change and say it could have been either exit or entrance . i would be very interested in any information you have, which you spoke of. any video , film , statements by perry etc on this matter...

Hello, Fergus!  There is a ton of information online about the crime that the U.S. government committed against Dr. Malcolm Perry.  One of the best articles, "The Ordeal of Malcolm Perry," was written by James DiEugenio.  It can be found at the "Kennedys and King" web site, here. 
https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/the-ordeal-of-malcolm-perry

A few quotes from this excellent article.  "Dr. Kemp Clark, chief of neurosurgery—the man who actually pronounced Kennedy dead—said he observed a large gaping hole in the rear of Kennedy’s skull. (Michael Benson, Who’s Who in the JFK Assassination, p. 80) Dr. Malcolm Perry, who cut a tracheostomy across the bullet wound in Kennedy’s neck, said that the wound was one of entrance. (James DiEugenio, The JFK Assassination: The Evidence Today, p. 367)"

Continuing from the article, "Some strange things happened with (the Nov. 22 Parkland press conference). First of all, there is no film available of it today, which is remarkable in and of itself, because, as one can see from pictures and film snippets, there were many reporters in that conference room. It is very hard to comprehend how not one of them called for a film camera to cover the initial public pronouncement of President Kennedy’s death. Second, initially, the Secret Service told the Warren Commission that they did not even have a transcript of this conference. According to former Assassination Records Review Board (ARRB) analyst Doug Horne, there are two real problems with the Secret Service saying this. First, according to Horne, the Secret Service went around collecting the films of this press conference. Thus making it disappear. (See Horne at Future of Freedom Foundation conference of May 18th. This is at the FFF web site.)
But further, the Secret Service lied to the Commission about having the transcript..."

Yes, extreme pressure was applied to Dr. Perry by the feds to get him to publicly modify his "entrance wound" statement. But, privately, he never really changed his mind. And this pressure (i.e. threats) began within an hour of the assassination. So shortly after the assassination, no one had yet done an investigation of the crime scene. How could anyone possibly know the hole in the front of JFK's throat was, or was not, an entrance wound? Clearly, the SS pressure on Dr. Perry was not based on forensics or science. It was based on objectives or information that is still being denied to the American people today.                                                   

Della thank you so much for your reply and the link you provided for the article . i will read it , thank you .

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

    With regard to what you are saying above, what Authority did the SS have to demand/take possession of JFK's body? And, there is nothing "silly" about having a SS Agent or 2 leave the Queen Mary in order to have the "6" of the POTUS. Not sure what the value of that AR-15 is when confined to the back seat of the Queen Mary. The possibility of "friendly fire" also rules out firing it at anything in the 10-2 O'Clock line of fire.

Hickey had the AR15 inside the hozzie. And it stank, as did the 4 or 5 stinking casings in his pocket.
Later the poor lil ÄR15 was confined to nowhere --- in service for a mere 4 hrs --- then out of service for ever.

Not even toy AR15s for the kids at Xmas 1963 --- bang bang bang bang your dead ha ha ha ha --- no i'm not, i'm not the president, i'm an itchybum.

[Richard Smith]

    With regard to what you are saying above, what Authority did the SS have to demand/take possession of JFK's body? And, there is nothing "silly" about having a SS Agent or 2 leave the Queen Mary in order to have the "6" of the POTUS. Not sure what the value of that AR-15 is when confined to the back seat of the Queen Mary. The possibility of "friendly fire" also rules out firing it at anything in the 10-2 O'Clock line of fire.

I don't think they had the authority to take the body.  They had the guns, though.  The body should have remained in Dallas.  That doesn't mean there was a conspiracy.  It just means that some pissed off secret service agents had had enough that day and were getting out of Dallas.   Not sure what that has to do with the silly claim that they should have all jumped out of the car in DP and began an investigation.  And now you are arguing that the SS should not have been armed because they did not fire off the AR 15?  That is even more silly.  They had no opportunity to defend JFK from Oswald because he was in a building behind them but other scenarios could have presented themselves including armed assassins along the motorcade.  Of course, the SS would want access to the best weapons.

[Royell Storing]

I don't think they had the authority to take the body.  They had the guns, though.  The body should have remained in Dallas.  That doesn't mean there was a conspiracy.  It just means that some pissed off secret service agents had had enough that day and were getting out of Dallas.   Not sure what that has to do with the silly claim that they should have all jumped out of the car in DP and began an investigation.  And now you are arguing that the SS should not have been armed because they did not fire off the AR 15?  That is even more silly.  They had no opportunity to defend JFK from Oswald because he was in a building behind them but other scenarios could have presented themselves including armed assassins along the motorcade.  Of course, the SS would want access to the best weapons.

   When these gorillas stole the body of JFK, they displayed their having carte blanche to do whatever they wanted. This would include any of them getting out of the Queen Mary and defending the 6 of the POTUS if they so desired. Was anybody ever prosecuted for the JFK Body theft? No mystery why.
   If you have Multiple SS Agents committing an illegal act, (JFK Body Theft), by definition you have a Conspiracy.

[Charles Collins]

   When these gorillas stole the body of JFK, they displayed their having carte blanche to do whatever they wanted. This would include any of them getting out of the Queen Mary and defending the 6 of the POTUS if they so desired. Was anybody ever prosecuted for the JFK Body theft? No mystery why.
   If you have Multiple SS Agents committing an illegal act, (JFK Body Theft), by definition you have a Conspiracy.

Was anybody ever prosecuted for the JFK Body theft? No mystery why.

Hmm, now just who would have been responsible for prosecuting “the gorillas”? Let’s see, I think that would have been the district attorney. What was his name? Oh yeah, Henry Wade, right? It turns out that Henry Wade had already (before they left) advised, via telephone, Dr. Earl Rose and Justice Theron Ward that he had no objection to the removal of the president’s body. Maybe that is why…

[Richard Smith]

   When these gorillas stole the body of JFK, they displayed their having carte blanche to do whatever they wanted. This would include any of them getting out of the Queen Mary and defending the 6 of the POTUS if they so desired. Was anybody ever prosecuted for the JFK Body theft? No mystery why.
   If you have Multiple SS Agents committing an illegal act, (JFK Body Theft), by definition you have a Conspiracy.

A conspiracy to do what exactly?  You are mixing apples and oranges and claiming that proves you have a grapefruit.  There is a good argument that the SS acted inappropriately in taking the body out of the jurisdiction in which the crime was committed.  This was not a normal homicide case, however.  This was the assassination of the President of the United States.  It was the job of the SS to protect him.  They failed in that regard but returned him to DC.  There is no reason to suggest this somehow proves a "conspiracy" as the term is commonly used in this context to mean a plan to kill JFK and frame Oswald for the crime.  The SS were acting in the heat of the moment. 

[Royell Storing]

Was anybody ever prosecuted for the JFK Body theft? No mystery why.

Hmm, now just who would have been responsible for prosecuting “the gorillas”? Let’s see, I think that would have been the district attorney. What was his name? Oh yeah, Henry Wade, right? It turns out that Henry Wade had already (before they left) advised, via telephone, Dr. Earl Rose and Justice Theron Ward that he had no objection to the removal of the president’s body. Maybe that is why…

   What's your Source for Wade green lighting the release of JFK's body? This is 1963 and communication that day in Dallas was a nightmare. Take a look at Wade's WC Testimony. Nothing about this in that lengthy Q/A. Wade was racing around that day and not sitting inside an office making phone calls. On top of that, the body of JFK was at Parkland Hospital for roughly 60 minutes. Not much time for Wade to allegedly OK anything with respect to the JFK Body. Again, what is the source of this tale? I hope it is SWORN Testimony.