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Re: Do we know anymore at 60 years?
« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2023, 11:39:36 PM »
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@ Royell, Gordon Arnold's wife kindly offered the sixth floor Gordon's camera *correct me if I am wrong* and they weren't satisfied with that, no, they greedily wanted any paperwork etc the family had to do with Gordon and his assassination experience. So what is it that the sixth floor knows about Gordon Arnold. We are also curious to learn. We are in good company!

          Mack and The Sixth were looking for anything they could get to harm the credibility of Arnold. GARY MACK had every opportunity to conduct his own interview with Arnold, but he waited hoping to trip up the widow and son. That failed miserably. Arnold's Sixth Floor Interview by Curator Hunt went very well. Arnold DETAILED who was around him in addition to his having to work around the Stemmons Sign and therefore taking a Higher Ground position. Also, he added that when he dove to the ground, his camera was still filming. He thought the No Hat Cop might have been captured on his film. There's a lot of good stuff in that Sixth Floor interview that Gordon Arnold did not get into during his short "Men Who Killed Kennedy" Walk-Through. This is what scares the Sixth Floor.

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Re: Do we know anymore at 60 years?
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Re: Do we know anymore at 60 years?
« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2023, 01:16:10 AM »
@ Royell, Gordon Arnold's wife kindly offered the sixth floor Gordon's camera *correct me if I am wrong* and they weren't satisfied with that, no, they greedily wanted any paperwork etc the family had to do with Gordon and his assassination experience. So what is it that the sixth floor knows about Gordon Arnold. We are also curious to learn. We are in good company!

Listen to Arnold's own words.

Gordon Arnold claims a man with a massive weapon came out and confiscated his film! But obviously left the wide open Zapruder completely alone, as if. And the fact that a man would expose himself to the place where Arnold said he was standing while carrying a huge weapon is just crazy!

Gordon Arnold says where he was, had a bunch of bullets firing over his head, but how many eyewitnesses said there was more than three shots fired? And don't forget we know for a fact that that bothy Kennedy and Connally were shot in the back so there's also that shot/shots to add to the amount of shots fired. And another important piece of information that must be considered is that 94% of eyewitnesses didn't report hearing crossfire therefore all the shots came from one location and logically since we know both Kennedy and Connally were definitely shot in the back by definition all shots came from the top end of Elm street.

Gordon Arnold also says, which to me sounds like he's trying to convince himself, "There's no doubt in my mind I was there...and it did occur" If he was truly there why would he feel the need to introduce the concept of doubt? A normal person who was really there would say "I was there, and it did occur" simple as that.


And the way he gets emotional when he sees himself as a blob in Moorman's photo, next to the well known blob known by deluded fantasist's as badgeman, paints a picture of a deranged old man seeking his unwarranted 15 minutes of Fame! Very Sad!

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Re: Do we know anymore at 60 years?
« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2023, 01:40:21 AM »
Listen to Arnold's own words.

Gordon Arnold claims a man with a massive weapon came out and confiscated his film! But obviously left the wide open Zapruder completely alone, as if. And the fact that a man would expose himself to the place where Arnold said he was standing while carrying a huge weapon is just crazy!

Gordon Arnold says where he was, had a bunch of bullets firing over his head, but how many eyewitnesses said there was more than three shots fired? And don't forget we know for a fact that that bothy Kennedy and Connally were shot in the back so there's also that shot/shots to add to the amount of shots fired. And another important piece of information that must be considered is that 94% of eyewitnesses didn't report hearing crossfire therefore all the shots came from one location and logically since we know both Kennedy and Connally were definitely shot in the back by definition all shots came from the top end of Elm street.

Gordon Arnold also says, which to me sounds like he's trying to convince himself, "There's no doubt in my mind I was there...and it did occur" If he was truly there why would he feel the need to introduce the concept of doubt? A normal person who was really there would say "I was there, and it did occur" simple as that.


And the way he gets emotional when he sees himself as a blob in Moorman's photo, next to the well known blob known by deluded fantasist's as badgeman, paints a picture of a deranged old man seeking his unwarranted 15 minutes of Fame! Very Sad!

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  You're obviously unfamiliar with the entire Gordon Arnold story. You're basing ALL of your opinions on ONLY this "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" segment. Arnold did Not seek attention/fame. You're maligning Arnold without knowing ALL the FACTS. And you wonder why the No Hat Cop did Not accost Zapruder? Think about 1 man and the route required for him to travel from the picket fence to Zapruder AND SITZMAN vs the route required to go from the picket fence to only Gordon Arnold. Your current conclusions are half-baked due to NOT KNOWING ALL THE FACTS.

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Re: Do we know anymore at 60 years?
« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2023, 01:40:21 AM »


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Re: Do we know anymore at 60 years?
« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2023, 02:35:24 AM »
  You're obviously unfamiliar with the entire Gordon Arnold story. You're basing ALL of your opinions on ONLY this "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" segment. Arnold did Not seek attention/fame. You're maligning Arnold without knowing ALL the FACTS. And you wonder why the No Hat Cop did Not accost Zapruder? Think about 1 man and the route required for him to travel from the picket fence to Zapruder AND SITZMAN vs the route required to go from the picket fence to only Gordon Arnold. Your current conclusions are half-baked due to NOT KNOWING ALL THE FACTS.

How do you know what facts I know? Besides the film I presented of Gordan where I illustrated all the problems with his recollections you just ignore all my revelations in favour of your own bonkers interpretation.

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And you wonder why the No Hat Cop did Not accost Zapruder? Think about 1 man and the route required for him to travel from the picket fence to Zapruder AND SITZMAN vs the route required to go from the picket fence to only Gordon Arnold.

Huh? You can't be as crazy as Gordon, according to Gordon the guy who wanted the film threatened him, so obviously this guy thought any film was very very important but you're saying that traveling those extra yards to acquire Zapruder's evidence was too far? Zapruder hung around after the event and any film could be easily acquired but they not only ignored confiscating the film, they helped him develop the film!!

Please Royell, you used to use your brain in trying to figure out your conspiracy because lately you grab hold of any rancid morsel and like a rabid dog just won't let go, even though you must know that devouring your latest "prize" will destroy you.

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Re: Do we know anymore at 60 years?
« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2023, 04:27:30 AM »
How do you know what facts I know? Besides the film I presented of Gordan where I illustrated all the problems with his recollections you just ignore all my revelations in favour of your own bonkers interpretation.

Huh? You can't be as crazy as Gordon, according to Gordon the guy who wanted the film threatened him, so obviously this guy thought any film was very very important but you're saying that traveling those extra yards to acquire Zapruder's evidence was too far? Zapruder hung around after the event and any film could be easily acquired but they not only ignored confiscating the film, they helped him develop the film!!

Please Royell, you used to use your brain in trying to figure out your conspiracy because lately you grab hold of any rancid morsel and like a rabid dog just won't let go, even though you must know that devouring your latest "prize" will destroy you.

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              Just admit that you have never heard the Sixth Floor Interview of Gordon Arnold. You popped off and now are in way over your head and look foolish.  Once again, we have a "researcher" that is unfamiliar with with the story of an alleged eyewitness to the assassination. It's easy to look at pictures and film. It takes time to find/digest the entire story that an eyewitness has to tell.

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Re: Do we know anymore at 60 years?
« Reply #29 on: December 03, 2023, 05:04:48 AM »
              Just admit that you have never heard the Sixth Floor Interview of Gordon Arnold. You popped off and now are in way over your head and look foolish.  Once again, we have a "researcher" that is unfamiliar with with the story of an alleged eyewitness to the assassination. It's easy to look at pictures and film. It takes time to find/digest the entire story that an eyewitness has to tell.

Stop playing your juvenile games because just like Gordon Arnold, Beverly Oliver, Ed Hoffman, etc, etc you're just looking for your 15 minutes of fame.

And the interview I posted tells me ALL I need to know about Gordon and now you infer that he was lying, well doesn't that take the cake.

Anyway good luck with your "eyewitness" because you gonna need it!

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Re: Do we know anymore at 60 years?
« Reply #30 on: December 03, 2023, 01:22:09 PM »
Stop playing your juvenile games because just like Gordon Arnold, Beverly Oliver, Ed Hoffman, etc, etc you're just looking for your 15 minutes of fame.

And the interview I posted tells me ALL I need to know about Gordon and now you infer that he was lying, well doesn't that take the cake.

Anyway good luck with your "eyewitness" because you gonna need it!

JohnM

    Whenever anyone says "...tells me ALL I need to know", reveals that they have gotten Lazy. The exploration and accumulation of knowledge should Never Cease. This attitude that you now employ explains why you are behind the curve in many of the issues being discussed on this forum. It explains your recent rebuttals to the Knott Lab Laser 360 SCIENCE that has found, "SBT IS IMPOSSIBLE". Basically, you're now, "All hat, no cattle". 

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Re: Do we know anymore at 60 years?
« Reply #31 on: December 03, 2023, 01:30:12 PM »
   

Found the interviews at the Sixth Floor website, as well as the camera ( Link ). Gordon was also interviewed on-camera for the 1988 "The Men Who Killed Kennedy". Not sure what you're hoping for but Gordon had lots of opportunity to indulge in his fantasy.

"Lazy" is you being unable to find the interviews and not addressing the gross mismatches in the Don Knotts* Lab "science".  ::)


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i find it interesting that you seemingly dont accept at all that gordon arnold was on or near the knoll as he claimed . while at the same time you support the 6th floor museum and you speak of the late mr mack in beloved terms . yet was it not the late mr mack along with the late jack white who's work gave us that image of a man in uniform and the so called badgeman on the knoll ? . i am guessing in this regard your praise for the late mr mack dissipates . i say that because i cant see how you can dispute arnold while supporting mr macks work .work which by the way he by his own admission had verified by i think atleast two sources .maybe you agree with macks work but say its not arnold ? . i want your view on this , i want you to share your correct stance on this matter . and on mr macks work . i dont want to misinterpret , so please feel free to correct me if you feel i am wrong .

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Re: Do we know anymore at 60 years?
« Reply #31 on: December 03, 2023, 01:30:12 PM »