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Offline John Mytton

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Re: Do we know anymore at 60 years?
« Reply #40 on: December 03, 2023, 10:06:04 PM »
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  Gary Mack was even deceptive during the interview he did with Gordon Arnold's widow and son. Mack apologizes for never having talked with Gordon Arnold eyeball-to-eyeball, (paraphrasing). Mack did this to trick the audience into believing that Mack NEVER Talked with Arnold. This is WRONG. In fact, Mack did Talk on the PHONE with Gordon Arnold in "80" and "81". Did Mack lie? NO. But his intention was to mislead the audience. Why? Because on "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" Mack and Jack White were claiming they INDEPENDENTLY found their "Badge Man" when examining the Moorman photo. Mack well knew the Gordon Arnold story along with Arnold's "No Hat Cop". Mack knew Arnold had claimed that a bullet came flying over his left shoulder. And what was behind Gordon Arnold's left shoulder? The Picket Fence. That "Badge Man" was not "discovered". It was "tailored" to fit into the Gordon Arnold story which Gary Mack knew chapter and verse. A total Flim-Flam by Mack dating from "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" (1988), right up to his attempting to hide his "80"/"81" conversations with Gordon Arnold during the Arnold widow/son interview in 2006. These are the continuous acts of a Charlatan.

Give it up Royell, Gordon Arnold was a massive fraudster who like Beverly Oliver, Ed Hoffman and etc was just looking for his 15 minutes of fame!

For a start no Conspirator would place a sniper in front of the Limo when your Patsy was behind! Doh!
Arnold said a guy with a massive weapon came and took his film while leaving the not far away Zapruder completely alone?
Hudson who was not far away from Arnold's position said the shots came from above and behind and agreed that the shots came from behind the Limo!
Gordon Arnold wasn't captured by a single camera.
The guy near Hudson runs back to where the shots came from and if the earlier shots came from the fence, these guys lack of reaction doesn't indicate that.



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Re: Do we know anymore at 60 years?
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Re: Do we know anymore at 60 years?
« Reply #41 on: December 03, 2023, 11:26:38 PM »
Give it up Royell, Gordon Arnold was a massive fraudster who like Beverly Oliver, Ed Hoffman and etc was just looking for his 15 minutes of fame!

For a start no Conspirator would place a sniper in front of the Limo when your Patsy was behind! Doh!
Arnold said a guy with a massive weapon came and took his film while leaving the not far away Zapruder completely alone?
Hudson who was not far away from Arnold's position said the shots came from above and behind and agreed that the shots came from behind the Limo!
Gordon Arnold wasn't captured by a single camera.
The guy near Hudson runs back to where the shots came from and if the earlier shots came from the fence, these guys lack of reaction doesn't indicate that.



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    What images are there of that Black Couple that is supposed to have been sitting on the bench, jumping up and busting pop bottles, and then racing up The Steps? NONE! Nobody, Repeat NOBODY has ever said they saw Hudson standing on The Steps. Well, nobody other than Hudson himself. Yet the Black Couple and Hudson are accepted as having been inside Dealey Plaza on 11/22/63. But, as we ALL know now, Knott Labs Laser 360 SCIENCE has proven you ALL were Wrong. "SBT IS IMPOSSIBLE"
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Re: Do we know anymore at 60 years?
« Reply #42 on: December 04, 2023, 12:17:20 AM »
    What images are there of that Black Couple that is supposed to have been sitting on the bench, jumping up and busting pop bottles, and then racing up The Steps? NONE! Nobody, Repeat NOBODY has ever said they saw Hudson standing on The Steps. Well, nobody other than Hudson himself. Yet the Black Couple and Hudson are accepted as having been inside Dealey Plaza on 11/22/63. But, as we ALL know now, Knott Labs Laser 360 SCIENCE has proven you ALL were Wrong. "SBT IS IMPOSSIBLE"

You're obviously unfamiliar with Dealey Plaza, Gordon Arnold wasn't hidden but was standing way out in the open and don't forget, this is where Arnold was when someone with a huge weapon came and confiscated his film, an event that nobody else could miss or forget but only Arnold "remembers" this confrontation! Hahaha!



Talk about pointless details, to supposedly add credibility, in the video Arnold tells us, "he had dirty hands"!?
And according to Gordon Arnold this is the size of the weapon, was it a cannon?



Perhaps Arnold's description of the weapon was correct because an antique blunderbuss would explain the massive plume of smoke?



But the Arnold comment I like best "There's no doubt in my mind I was there...and it did occur" Hilarious!

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Re: Do we know anymore at 60 years?
« Reply #43 on: December 04, 2023, 03:15:48 AM »
Well, we learned a lot about the autopsy thanks to Jim Jenkins. The documentary on the parkland doctors was well done. Basically, confirming what we already knew.   

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Re: Do we know anymore at 60 years?
« Reply #44 on: December 04, 2023, 05:22:52 PM »
You're obviously unfamiliar with Dealey Plaza, Gordon Arnold wasn't hidden but was standing way out in the open and don't forget, this is where Arnold was when someone with a huge weapon came and confiscated his film, an event that nobody else could miss or forget but only Arnold "remembers" this confrontation! Hahaha!



Talk about pointless details, to supposedly add credibility, in the video Arnold tells us, "he had dirty hands"!?
And according to Gordon Arnold this is the size of the weapon, was it a cannon?



Perhaps Arnold's description of the weapon was correct because an antique blunderbuss would explain the massive plume of smoke?



But the Arnold comment I like best "There's no doubt in my mind I was there...and it did occur" Hilarious!

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     Once again, you reveal that you are unfamiliar with the Sixth Floor Interview of Gordon Arnold (6/6/1989).  Arnold did this interview roughly 10 months after his, "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" segment. Arnold supplied DETAILS to his story during the 45 minute Sixth Floor Q/A. The interview covered his position, what/who he saw around him, description of attacker(s), accents, nationalities, description of weapon, duration of event, etc, etc, etc. You have been circling the drain ever since The Knott Labs Laser 360 SCIENCE determined that the, "SBT IS IMPOSSIBLE". Pull yourself together, do the research, and get yourself back on your feet.
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Re: Do we know anymore at 60 years?
« Reply #45 on: December 04, 2023, 07:46:55 PM »
     Once again, you reveal that you are unfamiliar with the Sixth Floor Interview of Gordon Arnold (6/6/1989).  Arnold did this interview roughly 10 months after his, "The Men Who Killed Kennedy" segment. Arnold supplied DETAILS to his story during the 45 minute Sixth Floor Q/A. The interview covered his position, what/who he saw around him, description of attacker(s), accents, nationalities, description of weapon, duration of event, etc, etc, etc. You have been circling the drain ever since The Knott Labs Laser 360 SCIENCE determined that the, "SBT IS IMPOSSIBLE". Pull yourself together, do the research, and get yourself back on your feet.

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The interview covered his position

So, you're saying that Gordon Arnold was misrepresenting his position where he says he filmed the Presidential parade? Interesting!



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description of weapon

So, you're saying that Gordon Arnold was misrepresenting the size of the weapon? Very interesting!



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The interview covered his position, what/who he saw around him, description of attacker(s), accents, nationalities, description of weapon, duration of event, etc, etc, etc.

I couldn't give two hoots about any of that because seemingly you've just said that some of his earlier details from an earlier interview were not accurate? And if so what can we trust coming from the mouth of Gordon Arnold?

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You have been circling the drain ever since The Knott Labs Laser 360 SCIENCE determined that the, "SBT IS IMPOSSIBLE". Pull yourself together, do the research, and get yourself back on your feet.

Yeah, the SCIENCE that in your words was based on "Bogus" resources, give it up Royell because every time you post this inane closer on every post, you are just digging a deeper hole for yourself.

Even though you inadvertently have supplied further Proof of the Current Z Film being Bogus,

Hulk Connally randomly placed into a "Bogus" film! Hilarious



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Re: Do we know anymore at 60 years?
« Reply #46 on: December 04, 2023, 08:45:16 PM »
  If you want to make conclusions without having ALL the Facts, that's your call. Remember when viewing any JFK Assassination Special that contains various eyewitnesses telling their 11/22/63 story, that the overwhelming majority of the time a portion of their tale ends up on the cutting room floor. Time constraints do prevail. Your NOT having listened to the Gordon Arnold Sixth Floor Q/A makes you ignorant of Arnold detailing this same thing happening to him in his segment of, "The Men Who Killed Kennedy".
  Never gonna happen, but I would like to view the "cutting room floor" walk-through material that Arnold did in "The Men Who Killed Kennedy". Same goes for the entire "walk-through" material that Dave Wiegman did with Gary Mack on "JFK, Death In Dealey Plaza". It would be helpful to know the path that Wiegman took UP the Knoll, across, and then down the Knoll to Elm St. And he and Gary Mack did a walk-through, though it is Not entirely on that JFK Special starring Gary Mack. On that same JFK Special, Wiegman DETAILED feeling the "compression" of a bullet whizzing passed his face. Strange, but that would be at least a 4th shot. It also would be indicative of a shot being fired "on the horizontal" which was DETAILED in "The Men Who Killed Kennedy".
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Re: Do we know anymore at 60 years?
« Reply #47 on: December 04, 2023, 09:12:25 PM »
Ralph Cinque would fit nicely into that list.  :D

Hey, you didn't write 'Stinky'.  Might as well add fetzer, baker, anthony marsh, tom rossley, etc., mae, morley, continue !!!
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