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Offline John Mytton

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Re: Do we know anymore at 60 years?
« Reply #48 on: December 04, 2023, 09:33:31 PM »
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  If you want to make conclusions without having ALL the Facts, that's your call. Remember when viewing any JFK Assassination Special that contains various eyewitnesses telling their 11/22/63 story, that the overwhelming majority of the time a portion of their tale ends up on the cutting room floor. Time constraints do prevail. Your NOT having listened to the Gordon Arnold Sixth Floor Q/A makes you ignorant of Arnold detailing this same thing happening to him in his segment of, "The Men Who Killed Kennedy".
  Never gonna happen, but I would like to view the "cutting room floor" walk-through material that Arnold did in "The Men Who Killed Kennedy". Same goes for the entire "walk-through" material that Dave Wiegman did with Gary Mack on "JFK, Death In Dealey Plaza". It would be helpful to know the path that Wiegman took UP the Knoll, across, and then down the Knoll to Elm St. And he and Gary Mack did a walk-through, though it is Not entirely on that JFK Special starring Gary Mack. On that same JFK Special, Wiegman DETAILED feeling the "compression" of a bullet whizzing passed his face. Strange, but that would be at least a 4th shot. It also would be indicative of a shot being fired "on the horizontal" which was DETAILED in "The Men Who Killed Kennedy".

Based on the overwhelming evidence, I am not interested in wasting further time researching a man I know is lying. Obviously you are too embarrassed to post any more Gordon Arnold evidence but if you want to present his evidence here, I may decide to take a look and spot more flaws in this well known charlatan's "memories".

And besides, I have clear visual evidence from the man himself of where he was standing while filming and the size of the cannon that nobody else saw.





Nuff said!

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Re: Do we know anymore at 60 years?
« Reply #48 on: December 04, 2023, 09:33:31 PM »


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Re: Do we know anymore at 60 years?
« Reply #49 on: December 04, 2023, 11:16:40 PM »
Based on the overwhelming evidence, I am not interested in wasting further time researching a man I know is lying. Obviously you are too embarrassed to post any more Gordon Arnold evidence but if you want to present his evidence here, I may decide to take a look and spot more flaws in this well known charlatan's "memories".

And besides, I have clear visual evidence from the man himself of where he was standing while filming and the size of the cannon that nobody else saw.





Nuff said!

JohnM

     The holier than holy Sixth Floor Museum holds a 45 minute Q/A with Gordon Arnold and you are not interested in listening to it? Your "overwhelming evidence" claim is a cover for your now being absolutely floored. The Knott Labs 360 Laser SCIENCE PROVING the "SBT IS IMPOSSIBLE" has Disproved your decades long LN belief. You were duped, as were millions of other people. Time to stand up and move forward. The TRUTH has set you free.       
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Re: Do we know anymore at 60 years?
« Reply #50 on: December 05, 2023, 12:29:06 AM »
     The holier than holy Sixth Floor Museum holds a 45 minute Q/A with Gordon Arnold and you are not interested in listening to it? Your "overwhelming evidence" claim is a cover for your now being absolutely floored. The Knott Labs 360 Laser SCIENCE PROVING the "SBT IS IMPOSSIBLE" has Disproved your decades long LN belief. You were duped, as were millions of other people. Time to stand up and move forward. The TRUTH has set you free.       

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The holier than holy Sixth Floor Museum holds a 45 minute Q/A with Gordon Arnold and you are not interested in listening to it?

How many times have I got to tell you, I couldn't care less about Gordon Arnold. And you say the interview lasts FORTY FIVE minutes? WOW! So Gordon Arnold got his fifteen minutes of fame times three!

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Your "overwhelming evidence" claim is a cover for your now being absolutely floored.

When you have more than 1 deluded eyewitness, get back to me. K?

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The Knott Labs 360 Laser SCIENCE PROVING the "SBT IS IMPOSSIBLE" has Disproved your decades long LN belief.

Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) is a long-lasting disorder in which a person experiences uncontrollable and recurring thoughts (obsessions), engages in repetitive behaviors (compulsions), or both.

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Re: Do we know anymore at 60 years?
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Re: Do we know anymore at 60 years?
« Reply #51 on: December 05, 2023, 02:29:46 AM »

    JOHN -  SCIENCE is TRUTH. There's no running away from that.  LN's are now on the Wrong Side of Science.  "SBT IS IMPOSSIBLE"

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Re: Do we know anymore at 60 years?
« Reply #52 on: December 05, 2023, 02:40:54 AM »
Vast majority (2/3rds ) witness heard the sequence of 3 shots as 1…..2..3 .

If the latest experiment has the SBT trajectory implausible, then there would have to have been either another shooter or the single shooter had a semi auto rifle.

Either way though, the shot sequence would be different would it not ? Since now there had to be a shot hitting JC causing his abrupt shoulder turn very close to JFKs reactions. Therefore shots 1 and 2 would be only probably 1 sec apart.

That would be then a sequence 1..2…..3 which is the reverse of what majority witnesses seemed to have heard.

The only solution , if the the SBT is not viable, to preserve the majority witness perception, would require 2 shooters, one of whom had a silenced rifle that fired the shot at JC about 0.5 sec after JFK is hit at Z-222-223 giving the impression both JFK and JC are simultaneously responding to the same bullet.

But then you still need a 4th shot that’s from a loud rifle shot to have 3 loud shots heard and so when would that 4th shot occur so as to preserve the 1…..2..3 sequence?

Imo it would have to either be between the silenced shot at JC and the Z313 hit on JFK

Or.. it would have to be a 4th shot about 1-1.5 secs AFTER Z313.


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Re: Do we know anymore at 60 years?
« Reply #53 on: December 05, 2023, 02:45:36 AM »
    JOHN -  SCIENCE is TRUTH. There's no running away from that.  LN's are now on the Wrong Side of Science.  "SBT IS IMPOSSIBLE"

I just replied to Steve M. Galbraith and I think you will find value in what was said!

I also find Royell's latest stance on "SCIENCE" absolutely astonishing, because the amount of science that is integral to this case comes from the LNer side which incidentally is beyond compare but Royell has so far ignored the Medical Experts, Forensic Specialists, Photographic Experts, Ballistics Experts, Handwriting Experts and etc etc all in favour of the scraps of pseudo science he collects from the gutter!

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Re: Do we know anymore at 60 years?
« Reply #54 on: December 05, 2023, 03:21:01 AM »
It’s basically a question if these laser scientists got the angle of JCs shoulder line matching with what the Z film frames seem to indicate.

How different is their orientation of JC  from Myers computer model?

Should we consider their computer graphics  method more accurate that Myers graphics method of construction by using the Z film?

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Re: Do we know anymore at 60 years?
« Reply #55 on: December 05, 2023, 03:38:43 AM »
I just replied to Steve M. Galbraith and I think you will find value in what was said!

I also find Royell's latest stance on "SCIENCE" absolutely astonishing, because the amount of science that is integral to this case comes from the LNer side which incidentally is beyond compare but Royell has so far ignored the Medical Experts, Forensic Specialists, Photographic Experts, Ballistics Experts, Handwriting Experts and etc etc all in favour of the scraps of pseudo science he collects from the gutter!

JohnM

                This is about SCIENCE. Trashing me will Not change what SCIENCE has Declared: "SBT IS IMPOSSIBLE". LN's are now on the wrong side of SCIENCE. And it's only gonna get worse as the Knott Labs Laser 360 SCIENCE now locates the shooter(s). Just as they do inside court rooms across this country day-in, day-out.

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Re: Do we know anymore at 60 years?
« Reply #55 on: December 05, 2023, 03:38:43 AM »