Wow, so many words and silly excuses trying to justify Martins teeny weeny conspiracy. Hilarious!
But I will respond to one of his claims.
So in Kleins normal business transaction, they received the order but Martin says and I quote him verbatim "We don't know what actually happened after that." but we do know Martin, we do know!
Oswald received the exact same rifle that Kleins sent.
Oswald was photographed with C2766.
And the very same rifle was found on the 6th floor of Oswald's workplace!
Now 3..2..1 like clockwork Martin will claim that the HSCA expert was wrong about Oswald being photographed with C2766 and don't forget dear reader that the backyard rifle was the same make and model as the one Oswald was sent and at the time Kleins new stock was for the 36 inch model which means that this relatively rare make of rifle was made even more obscure by the shorter new stock!
And then Martin will spin some malarkey about how Oswald didn't put C2766 on the 6th floor but allude to some mysterious unknown person/persons somehow over the previous 8 months somehow acquired C2766 and snuck it into the building to set Oswald up??
You simply can't make this stuff up but you just gotta laugh at the unbelievable lengths that these Oswald apologists go to to claim Oswald's innocence. Hardy Ha Ha!!
JohnM
Wow, so many words and silly excuses trying to justify Martins teeny weeny conspiracy. Hilarious!When a LN starts with an ad hom attack, you already know it's go down hill fast from that moment on. Instead of dealing with what I actually said, John exposes the superficial way he deals with "evidence" and just simply dismisses what I said as "silly excuses". A classic move by somebody who doesn't really want to debate, because they have nothing credible to say....
But I will respond to one of his claims.
So in Kleins normal business transaction, they received the order but Martin says and I quote him verbatim "We don't know what actually happened after that." but we do know Martin, we do know!
Oswald received the exact same rifle that Kleins sent. And here we go again, the king of gifs strikes again. He posts a copy of Waldman 7, presumably as some sort of proof that Oswald received a rifle from Klein's, but in reality that document doesn't show anything of the kind. There is no evidence whatsoever that Klein's ever sent a rifle to Oswald's P.O. address and there is no evidence whatsoever that Oswald or anybody else ever received a rifle.
What John fails to understand (which is more likely than simply ignores) is that Waldman 7 is an internal document of Klein's that was allegedly found on a microfilm, which FBI agents took with them on 11/23/63. The microfilm was never returned to Klein's and the first (and only) time Waldman saw it again was during his WC testimony, several months later. Now let's not forget that Waldman 7 is a photocopy (which are easy to manipulate) and most of it's content is printed. Only the serial number is handwritten (by whom, we don't know). So, when Waldman was shown exhibit 7, he could and did not have any knowledge about the authenticity of the document, for which there was never a chain of custody provided. Now, just how convenient was it to have the serial number of the rifle found at the TSBD handwritten on the only document that could provide a link between the Hidell order form and the rifle? Do the math; Waldman 7 has very limited, if any, evidentiary value, no matter what John and his ilk claim.
Oswald was photographed with C2766.If that is true, you should be able to show us that serial number on the rifle Oswald is holding in the photograph, right? So, why don't you show us an enlargement showing the number, John? Go on then...
And the very same rifle was found on the 6th floor of Oswald's workplace!And what evidence exactly do you have that the rifle found at the TSBD is the exact same one as the rifle Oswald is holding in the BY photo? Surely, you're not just making this crucial claim without anything solid to back it up, right? So, why don't you tell is what that evidence is, John?
Now 3..2..1 like clockwork Martin will claim that the HSCA expert was wrong about Oswald being photographed with C2766 Show me the report of the HSCA expert in which he unequivocally states that the rifle Oswald was holding had the serial number C2766. I won't hold my breath, though.
and don't forget dear reader that the backyard rifle was the same make and model as the one Oswald was sent and at the time Kleins new stock was for the 36 inch model which means that this relatively rare make of rifle was made even more obscure by the shorter new stock!Who are you trying to fool with this nonsense? Hidell ordered a 36" rifle. The rifle found at the TSBD was 40". So, not the same model at all. As already stated, there is no evidence that Oswald was sent any rifle.
And then Martin will spin some malarkey about how Oswald didn't put C2766 on the 6th floor but allude to some mysterious unknown person/persons somehow over the previous 8 months somehow acquired C2766 and snuck it into the building to set Oswald up?? Rather than trying to incorrectly predict what I would say, I would prefer that you actually present some conclusive evidence for all the BS you are spewing.
You simply can't make this stuff up but you just gotta laugh at the unbelievable lengths that these Oswald apologists go to to claim Oswald's innocence. Hardy Ha Ha!! You should know what you can't make up, as you are the expert in - and only one here - making things up.
A photograph of a man holding a rifle, taken 8 months earlier, is somehow evidence of ownership of that rifle....... Hilarious
A handwritten circle on the letters "PP" on a photocopy of an unauthenticated document is proof that Oswald was sent and received a rifle ..... Pathetic
A rifle found at the TSBD somehow becomes "Oswald's rifle" because of a serial number that can't be seen on the photograph of him holding a rifle..... LOL
Get back to me when you have anything substantive to bring to the discussion, so you won't waste anymore of my time with your propagandistic drivel.