The LHO Escape -- Panic and Shock

[Martin Weidmann]

Ouch, Too bad Oswald ordered and paid for C20-T750 the following month, in mid March!
February < March!





You walked right into that one, didn't you, better luck next time!!

JohnM

What a fool. If I order something from a February ad, I expect either the merchandise that was advertised or a notification that the item is no longer available.

I don't expect to be sent an item that isn't what I ordered and isn't advertised until April 1963

[John Mytton]

I don't expect to be sent an item that isn't what I ordered and isn't advertised until April 1963

Nobody cares what you expect!

Oswald ordered C20-T750 and Oswald received C20-T750.



Live with it!

JohnM

[Martin Weidmann]

Please go back and read the Wikipedia link I posted. It will explain what you refuse to understand. The "April" issue of American Rifleman appeared on newsstands and in mailboxes at the beginning of March.

Wikipedia still has a long way to go before it becomes a credible and reliable source, but even if the April issue appeared on news stands at the beginning of March, it still does not alter the fact that he Hidell order form clearly refers to the February issue.

The most remarkable part of this discussion is how LNs are trying to put a square peg into a round hole.

This was supposed to be a simple, normal, transaction. A guy orders a mail order rifle from the February issue of some magazine and either receives that rifle or gets notified it's out of stock.

Here we have, as so often in this case, as massive spin story on how a 36" rifle ordered from the February issue of a magazine somehow turns into an alleged delivery of a 40" rifle that wasn't advertised until the April issue of the same magazine.
Even worse, there isn't even a shred of evidence that any rifle was actually sent to a P.O. box in Dallas and/or was received by anybody.

LNs who actually believe and defend this BS have no sense of reality but could do very well by a applying for a job at Disney Land!

[Martin Weidmann]

Nobody cares what you expect!

Oswald ordered C20-T750 and Oswald received C20-T750.



Live with it!

JohnM

Utter BS... show that Oswald ever received C20-T750! Oh, wait... you can't....   

[John Mytton]

Wikipedia still has a long way to go before it becomes a credible and reliable source, but even if the April issue appeared on news stands at the beginning of March, it still does not alter the fact that he Hidell order form clearly refers to the February issue.

The most remarkable part of this discussion is how LNs are trying to put a square peg into a round hole.

This was supposed to be a simple, normal, transaction. A guy orders a mail order rifle from the February issue of some magazine and either receives that rifle or gets notified it's out of stock.

Here we have, as so often in this case, as massive spin story on how a 36" rifle ordered from the February issue of a magazine somehow turns into an alleged delivery of a 40" rifle that wasn't advertised until the April issue of the same magazine.
Even worse, there isn't even a shred of evidence that any rifle was actually sent to a P.O. box in Dallas and/or was received by anybody.

LNs who actually believe and defend this BS have no sense of reality but could do very well by a applying for a job at Disney Land!

So much hostility for something you don't even understand!

It's not like a pair of shoes or a shirt, it's a rifle, where the extra inches gives more accuracy and is an added bonus!

Besides Oswald ordered C20-T750 and Oswald received C20-T750.



Put that in your pipe and smoke it!

JohnM

[Martin Weidmann]

So much hostility for something you don't even understand!

It's not like a pair of shoes or a shirt, it's a rifle, where the extra inches gives more accuracy and is an added bonus!

Besides Oswald ordered C20-T750 and Oswald received C20-T750.



Put that in your pipe and smoke it!

JohnM

So much hostility for something you don't even understand!

Not this BS again.... Don't you ever grow up?

It's not like a pair of shoes or a shirt, it's a rifle, where the extra inches gives more accuracy and is an added bonus!

Right, so one would expect Klein's to emphasize it in the ads... Can you understand why they didn't?

Besides Oswald ordered C20-T750 and Oswald received C20-T750.

Taking lessons from Joseph Goebbles, are you?

Btw, where is the evidence that Oswald received C20-T750 or anything else? It's the second time I've asked you. Why not simply answer the question?

[John Mytton]

The critics think American readers of gun magazines were Carcano experts who wanted an old M91 that was shortened from 50" to 35" and weighed 5 1/2 lbs, if they saw it in an ad.

Exactly Jerry, the price of the Carcano in the Kleins ad in the April 1963 issue of American Rifleman was close to half the price of the next cheapest rifle and the description was most likely written by some half assed advertising agency, and as you say there was a plethora of problems with that ad, which if Kleins were aware of these problems they never bothered to change the info for the close to a year of Kleins ads that I have seen.
 
So clearly the amount of negative reaction due to the misinformation in the Carcano ad was negligible.

This faux outrage by the CT community is absurd and at the end of the day, the longer Carcano was the better Carcano, so where is the problem? Like I said the slight difference in size had little effect on the finished product, a rifle isn't like a pair of trousers or a pair of shoes where an exact size is required.

JohnM

[Martin Weidmann]

Exactly Jerry, the price of the Carcano in the Kleins ad in the April 1963 issue of American Rifleman was close to half the price of the next cheapest rifle and the description was most likely written by some half assed advertising agency, and as you say there was a plethora of problems with that ad, which if Kleins were aware of these problems they never bothered to change the info for the close to a year of Kleins ads that I have seen.
 
So clearly the amount of negative reaction due to the misinformation in the Carcano ad was negligible.

This faux outrage by the CT community is absurd and at the end of the day, the longer Carcano was the better Carcano, so where is the problem? Like I said the slight difference in size had little effect on the finished product, a rifle isn't like a pair of trousers or a pair of shoes where an exact size is required.

JohnM

All this BS for what is supposed to be a simple normal of transaction of a guy ordering a rifle from a magazine ad and actually receiving it.

Hilarious!