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Offline John Mytton

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Re: The LHO Escape -- Panic and Shock
« Reply #136 on: December 07, 2023, 10:15:44 AM »
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Btw prior to post 130 we were discussing your idiotic claim that, if somebody orders a 36" rifle and receives a 40" rifle, he somehow has received what he ordered.

Oswald ordered C20-T750 and Oswald received C20-T750.



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Offline John Mytton

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Re: The LHO Escape -- Panic and Shock
« Reply #137 on: December 07, 2023, 10:27:18 AM »
Btw prior to post 130 we were discussing your idiotic claim that, if somebody orders a 36" rifle and receives a 40" rifle, he somehow has received what he ordered.

Kleins sent Oswald a better, longer more accurate rifle.

But let me put this in words that are more applicable to you and perhaps you will finally understand, say you ordered a home delivery 750ml bottle of that cheap alcohol that you are currently full of, and the bottle shop sends you a 1 litre bottle are you going to complain?

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Re: The LHO Escape -- Panic and Shock
« Reply #138 on: December 07, 2023, 10:34:23 AM »
Oswald ordered C20-T750 and Oswald received C20-T750.



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Semantics. The truth is in the details which you so eagerly ignore.

Hidell ordered C20-T750 from department 358, which is a 36" MC rifle.

He did not order a 40" MC rifle.

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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: The LHO Escape -- Panic and Shock
« Reply #139 on: December 07, 2023, 10:35:47 AM »
Kleins sent Oswald a better, longer more accurate rifle.

But let me put this in words that are more applicable to you and perhaps you will finally understand, say you ordered a home delivery 750ml bottle of that cheap alcohol that you are currently full of, and the bottle shop sends you a 1 litre bottle are you going to complain?

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Kleins sent Oswald a better, longer more accurate rifle.

Really? Show me the shipping document that proves they sent anything at all. Oh wait, it doesn't exist, except in your delusional mind.

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Re: The LHO Escape -- Panic and Shock
« Reply #140 on: December 07, 2023, 10:54:17 AM »
Semantics. The truth is in the details which you so eagerly ignore.

Hidell ordered C20-T750 from department 358, which is a 36" MC rifle.

He did not order a 40" MC rifle.

You can't possibly be this Stupid?

The Department Number 358 isn't a specific Department within the Kliens warehouse but is a code which applied to every product ordered on that unique Kleins Advertisement, and is purely used to determine the origin of which magazine the coupon came from and is used for marketing. You really don't have a clue about how businesses work, do you!

Mr. BELIN. Can you just give us one or more of the magazines in which this coupon might have been taken?
Mr. WALDMAN. Well, this coupon was specifically taken from American Rifleman Magazine, issue of February 1963. It's identified by the department number which is shown as--now, if I can read this--shown as Department 358 on the coupon.


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The "Guns Magazine" had a department Number of 319 in Kleins Feb1963 ad. And interestingly Kleins ad in this magazine up until July63 was for the 36 inch model and thus proving once and for all, that Kleins didn't place any importance on the weight or length of the Carcano rifles that they stocked.

February 1963 Guns Magazine

https://gunsmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/G0263.pdf

April 1963 Guns Magazine

https://gunsmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/G0463.pdf

July 1963 Guns Magazine

https://gunsmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/G0763.pdf

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Therefore as can be seen by the plethora of various Department Numbers across any number of Kliens rifle ads, the only applicable number is the Order Number.

Oswald ordered C20-T750 and Oswald received C20-T750.



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Re: The LHO Escape -- Panic and Shock
« Reply #141 on: December 07, 2023, 11:17:57 AM »
Kleins sent Oswald a better, longer more accurate rifle.

Really? Show me the shipping document that proves they sent anything at all. Oh wait, it doesn't exist, except in your delusional mind.

We know Oswald received the rifle because he was photographed with it.



We know Oswald received the rifle because it contained his palm print and the FBI confirmed that Oswald had contact with Oswald's rifle.



We also have not one, not two but three types of fibers that match the three types of fibers contained in Oswald's arrest shirt, and the prohibitive probability is that they came from Oswald's shirt.



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Re: The LHO Escape -- Panic and Shock
« Reply #142 on: December 07, 2023, 03:53:25 PM »
You can't possibly be this Stupid?

The Department Number 358 isn't a specific Department within the Kliens warehouse but is a code which applied to every product ordered on that unique Kleins Advertisement, and is purely used to determine the origin of which magazine the coupon came from and is used for marketing. You really don't have a clue about how businesses work, do you!

Mr. BELIN. Can you just give us one or more of the magazines in which this coupon might have been taken?
Mr. WALDMAN. Well, this coupon was specifically taken from American Rifleman Magazine, issue of February 1963. It's identified by the department number which is shown as--now, if I can read this--shown as Department 358 on the coupon.


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The "Guns Magazine" had a department Number of 319 in Kleins Feb1963 ad. And interestingly Kleins ad in this magazine up until July63 was for the 36 inch model and thus proving once and for all, that Kleins didn't place any importance on the weight or length of the Carcano rifles that they stocked.

February 1963 Guns Magazine

https://gunsmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/G0263.pdf

April 1963 Guns Magazine

https://gunsmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/G0463.pdf

July 1963 Guns Magazine

https://gunsmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/G0763.pdf

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Therefore as can be seen by the plethora of various Department Numbers across any number of Kliens rifle ads, the only applicable number is the Order Number.

Oswald ordered C20-T750 and Oswald received C20-T750.



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You can't possibly be this Stupid?

No, but you can....

The Department Number 358 isn't a specific Department within the Kliens warehouse

Nobody said it was, except you of course...

but is a code which applied to every product ordered on that unique Kleins Advertisement,

You can try to muddy the water as much as you like, but the Department Number identified the magazine where the coupon came from. That, in turn, identified the exact item ordered.

So,  Ěf you believe that Oswald ordered anything at all, it was a 36" MC rifle as advertised in the February issue of American Rifleman Magazine. Period!

The "Guns Magazine" had a department Number of 319 in Kleins Feb1963 ad. And interestingly Kleins ad in this magazine up until July63 was for the 36 inch model and thus proving once and for all, that Kleins didn't place any importance on the weight or length of the Carcano rifles that they stocked.

Another selfserving argument that goes nowhere fast. It can just as easily be said that the ad proves that Klein's still was selling (and thus had in stock) 36" model MC rifles.
« Last Edit: December 07, 2023, 04:25:49 PM by Martin Weidmann »

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Re: The LHO Escape -- Panic and Shock
« Reply #143 on: December 07, 2023, 04:07:16 PM »
Well, well, well, Fergus O'bumhead, aren't you the pretentious, self entitled Twat.

Thanks Fergus, I sure will.

No you didn't.

My real name on this Forum is John Mytton and don't you forget it!

Not that I need your permission but thanks for the advice.

Sorry Fergus, but so far all your overreactions and hissy fits, tell quite the different story.

As always I will call a spade a spade and when I see poorly thought out, stupid and illogical attempts of rewriting History, I will very carefully explain why you are wrong and gently guide you to a place called reality.

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WOW lol , thank you for taking the time to reveal your true self to the many readers here who will see this . It is always fun to see an LN throw their toys out of their pram . For some reason when you speak the following quotes spring to mind , i wonder why ? lol .

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt"

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Re: The LHO Escape -- Panic and Shock
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