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Re: The James Files' version. A look from across the ocean.
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2023, 04:48:40 PM »
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Re: The James Files' version. A look from across the ocean.
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« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2023, 05:00:37 PM »
   RUSLAN - Whatever the issue at hand might be, it is becoming a common retort for someone to say, "That's been debunked". Usually, nothing definitive is offered to Prove the, "That's been debunked" claim. It's thrown out there with the expectation that the "debunked" declaration will be silently accepted and then over the course of time accepted as being Fact. Congrats to You on confronting this "debunked" claim. 
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Thank you Royell! I agree with you.
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Re: The James Files' version. A look from across the ocean.
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2023, 06:18:39 PM »
Why are many people still distrustful of the version of the President JFK assassination, outlined by James Files?

In my opinion, James Files' version is the most convincing of all existing ones. It is perfectly supported by facts, evidence, films and photographs, witness statements, explanations from specialists and experts.

There is no reason not to trust the numerous witness statements about the sound of a shot coming from the Grassy Knoll, about a cloud of smoke at the picket fence, about the smell of gunpowder gases in the area. That is, the shot was fired from there.

Did this shot hit JFK? And did it hit him in the head?

I read an interesting post on another forum about the JFK assassination:

https://jfkconspiracyforum.freeforums.net/thread/1714/forensic-science-president-kennedys-wounds

The explanations of specialists and experts set out in this post refute JFK's head injury with only one FMJ bullet, if such a bullet hit the head at all, and correspond to Files' words about his use of an expansive bullet loaded with mercury and about his shot from the front, from behind a picket fence on the Grassy Knoll. Most likely, Nicoletti or another gunman also used expansive bullets for his shot or shots, not excluding another caliber. This also explains the fact that forensic experts could not explain in any way, namely the finding of two fragments of a bullet on the posterior outer surface of the skull, and not in the entry hole itself, but relatively far from it. With a high degree of probability, it can be concluded that the president's head was hit by two shots – both from behind and from the front, with expansive bullets fired not from the LHO rifle.

Witnesses confirm Files' words that immediately after his fatal shot, some people did not let a few other people rush to the picket fence on the Grassy Knoll immediately after the shot, thus giving Files time to escape.

Films, for example, the Malcolm Couch's film, and photographs confirm Files' words that in the first seconds, or maybe even a minute after the assassination attempt, there were few people on the Grassy Knoll, and almost no one ran to the picket fence.

Files' reasoning about firearms, shooting, sighting in, his choice a single-shot the .221 Remington Fireball XP-100 handgun as an assassination weapon also speaks in favor of him. That he is an experienced user of firearms. He chose exactly the firearm that was perfect for the task. It is quite powerful and accurate and, at the same time, compact, stowable in a small case, which few people will pay attention to, since based on the crime scene, everyone will be looking for a rifle. It is unlikely that an impostor would have thought of naming Fireball XP-100 in his fabrications, besides, at that time it was practically still an experimental weapon.

And in the case of guns, I think Files is being tricky about something. He says that he did not know until November 22 that he would have to shoot the president. However, he took the Fireball XP-100 to Dallas, an extremely specific single-shot(!) firearm, an assassination weapon. In addition, it was his own weapon, obtained 8-12 months before. That is, Files should have initially understood that he would be the only to fire this weapon. And there was no talk of any other goals in Dallas other than the president JFK.

Files even told about the rain that had fallen in the morning, and witnesses told about the dirt in the parking lot at the Grassy Knoll, caused, apparently, by this rain. It is such trifles that testify to the truthfulness of the narrator.

In general, James Files' confession is replete with details and minutiae (starting from the description of the actual events and ending with his mental attitude towards them, his psychology, his emotions), making his story so plausible that it is most likely true.

Naturally, Files did not have the full picture of the conspiracy, did not know all its participants and (or) their invented and actual roles, which of them was at the time of the assassination attempt on Dealey Plaza and what they were doing.

It is even possible, but not necessarily, that James Files got into the lenses of photo and film cameras.

So, on the Malcolm Couch' film , a short time after the shots were fired, a man is rapidly passing in the crowd of people standing at the Texas School Book Depository. The glances and movements of all people are directed where the motorcade sped off, towards the Triple Underpass. However, the man is rapidly walking in the opposite direction without looking back. In his right hand he carries an object similar to a briefcase. He is wearing a short or cropped jacket. He follows the route that James Files, according to him, took to his car, parked near the Dal Tex Building.

And in the Mary Moorman's famous photograph above the edge of the picket fence there is an image that is either a play of shadows and light, or maybe the head of a man clinging to the optical sight of a firearm.

And probably the most important argument in favor of Files. He is not an impostor! No. He kept this secret. And he revealed it only as a result of the longtime and painstaking work of deeply respected Zack Shelton and other people involved, whom I find no reason to distrust.




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Ruslan: As you probably know, an autopsy was performed on JFK after the assassination and over the past 60 years since then over a dozen of the country's top forensic pathologists have examined the original evidence. They didn't look at copies of the x-rays and photos; they closely studied in fine detail (e.g., microscopically) the original material plus JFK's clothes, et cetera. Their conclusion was that JFK was shot in the back of the head with the bullet exiting the top/right of his skull.

These forensic pathologists were men who performed over 100,000 autopsies and had over 100+ years of experience. This included what was called the Clark Panel and the HSCA panel. And private forensic pathologists have also examined the evidence firsthand. Here is one of them, Peter Cummings, and his conclusion: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/why-the-assassination-of_b_4310463

Could they all be wrong? Of course. But I will accept their judgments over those of amateurs who look at multi-generation copies of the photos and who have no experience - none at all - in these fields of medicine. It's called: science.

JFK autopsy report: https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/warren-commission-report/appendix-09.pdf
Clark Panel: https://archive.org/details/nsia-AutopsyJFKClarkMedicalPanelReport1968/nsia-AutopsyJFKClarkMedicalPanelReport1968/Autopsy%20Clark%20Panel%2001/
HSCA Medical Panel Report: https://aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/hsca/reportvols/vol7/pdf/HSCA_Vol7_M53a_Kennedy.pdf

Again, the evidence for me is that there was no shot that hit JFK that was fired from the GK or fence. Maybe someone fired from there - I don't think so - but if they did they missed.

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Re: The James Files' version. A look from across the ocean.
« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2023, 06:43:23 PM »
Ruslan: As you probably know, an autopsy was performed on JFK after the assassination and over the past 60 years since then over a dozen of the country's top forensic pathologists have examined the original evidence. They didn't look at copies of the x-rays and photos. They studied the original material plus JFK's clothes, et cetera. Their conclusion was that JFK was shot in the back of the head with the bullet exiting the top/right of his skull.

The forensic pathologists were men who performed over 100,000 autopsies and had over 100 years of experience. This included what was called the Clark Panel and the HSCA panel. And private forensic pathologists have also examined the evidence. Here is one of them, Peter Cummings, and his conclusion: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/why-the-assassination-of_b_4310463

Could they all be wrong? Of course. But I will accept their judgments over those of amateurs who look at multi-generation copies of the photos.

JFK autopsy report: https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/warren-commission-report/appendix-09.pdf
Clark Panel: https://archive.org/details/nsia-AutopsyJFKClarkMedicalPanelReport1968/nsia-AutopsyJFKClarkMedicalPanelReport1968/Autopsy%20Clark%20Panel%2001/
HSCA Medical Panel Report: https://aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/hsca/reportvols/vol7/pdf/HSCA_Vol7_M53a_Kennedy.pdf

Again, the evidence for me is that there was no shot that hit JFK that was fired from the GK or fence. Maybe someone fired from there - I don't think so - but if they did they missed.

              Just me, but if Congress was serious about resolving the JFK Assassination Conspiracy Issue, they would have exhumed his body dating back to the HSCA. The missing JFK brain might also be found while exhuming the body.   

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Re: The James Files' version. A look from across the ocean.
« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2023, 08:27:17 PM »
              Just me, but if Congress was serious about resolving the JFK Assassination Conspiracy Issue, they would have exhumed his body dating back to the HSCA. The missing JFK brain might also be found while exhuming the body.

Are you sure Royell, you already believe that the autopsy was faked, so when Kennedy's dug up body confirms the autopsy report you will just say "more fakery" and at the end of the day will prove nothing more than what we already know.
Remember when Oswald was dug up and cries of fakery were heard coming from CT's across the World.

For God's sake let the Man lie in Peace!

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« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2023, 08:42:19 PM »
Are you sure Royell, you already believe that the autopsy was faked, so when Kennedy's dug up body confirms the autopsy report you will just say "more fakery" and at the end of the day will prove nothing more than what we already know.
Remember when Oswald was dug up and cries of fakery were heard coming from CT's across the World.

For God's sake let the Man lie in Peace!

JohnM

    Once the SKULL is DNA Verified, then the BACK/REAR of the SKULL would be examined. Either there is an ORANGE SIZE/LARGE HOLE present in this area or there is not. Not difficult to do.   

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Re: The James Files' version. A look from across the ocean.
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2023, 09:06:12 PM »
Are you sure Royell, you already believe that the autopsy was faked, so when Kennedy's dug up body confirms the autopsy report you will just say "more fakery" and at the end of the day will prove nothing more than what we already know.
Remember when Oswald was dug up and cries of fakery were heard coming from CT's across the World.

For God's sake let the Man lie in Peace!

JohnM
People who say all of the physical evidence has been faked or altered and that the prior investigations - especially the medical ones (autopsy, Clark Panel, HSCA Medical Panel) - were fraudulent will accept the conclusions of *another* investigation. Yes they will. Just one more and they'll be happy.

If you were to roll this film back 60 years ago and ask conspiracy believers that if over the next 60 years there would be multiple government investigations by multiple generations of Americans and multiple investigations by the media done by multiple generations of reporters AND tens of millions of pages of documents would be released would you be satisfied with the results? They would say "Yes."

But here we are more than half a century later after the most investigated event in American history has been done and they still won't accept it.

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« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2023, 09:39:16 PM »
People who say all of the physical evidence has been faked or altered and that the prior investigations - especially the medical ones (autopsy, Clark Panel, HSCA Medical Panel) - were fraudulent will accept the conclusions of *another* investigation. Yes they will. Just one more and they'll be happy.

If you were to roll this film back 60 years ago and ask conspiracy believers that if over the next 60 years there would be multiple government investigations by multiple generations of Americans and multiple investigations by the media done by multiple generations of reporters AND tens of millions of pages of documents would be released would you be satisfied with the results? They would say "Yes."

But here we are more than half a century later after the most investigated event in American history has been done and they still won't accept it.

      Why not remove Humans from the equation? You know, those same entities that employ Humans that are accused of being involved in this MURDER and COVER UP. CIA & FBI!! How about we let SCIENCE decide what happened? Oh, that's right. That just happened with the Knott Labs Laser 360 SCIENCE finding that the, "SBT IS IMPOSSIBLE". CASE CLOSED !!
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