JFK What the doctors saw.....Parkland hospital

[John Mytton]

BUMP

 
  In this Zapruder frame, where are JFK's hand located?   JFK is "clutching" Nothing!  He never clutched his throat, Storing,


 
   

 


https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Peculiar-position-assumed-by-the-elbows-immediately-after-an-injury-at-the-level-of-C6_fig4_359128636

The single bullet theory of the Warren Commission Report places a bullet wound at the sixth cervical vertebra (C6) of the vertebral column, which is consistent with 5.5 inches (14 cm) below the ear. The Warren Report itself does not conclude bullet entry at the sixth cervical vertebra, but this conclusion was made in a 1979 report on the assassination by the HSCA, which noted a defect in the C6 vertebra in the Bethesda X-rays, which the Bethesda autopsy physicians had missed and did not note.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopsy_of_John_F._Kennedy

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It's also worth noting that when you grab your own throat, your elbows remain at your sides and it feels weird to me, to have your elbows so elevated.







JohnM

[Steve Barber]

 

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Peculiar-position-assumed-by-the-elbows-immediately-after-an-injury-at-the-level-of-C6_fig4_359128636

The single bullet theory of the Warren Commission Report places a bullet wound at the sixth cervical vertebra (C6) of the vertebral column, which is consistent with 5.5 inches (14 cm) below the ear. The Warren Report itself does not conclude bullet entry at the sixth cervical vertebra, but this conclusion was made in a 1979 report on the assassination by the HSCA, which noted a defect in the C6 vertebra in the Bethesda X-rays, which the Bethesda autopsy physicians had missed and did not note.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autopsy_of_John_F._Kennedy

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It's also worth noting that when you grab your own throat, your elbows remain at your sides and it feels weird to me, to have your elbows so elevated.







JohnM

       

  I've tried and tried to figure out how anyone could believe that JFK was "Clutching his throat" with his arms splayed outward on both sides like they were. It makes no sense at all. People just don't do that.  I'm glad to hear that you've tried doing that with your own arms and hands.  I have too, and it's just not possible nor necessary. 

[John Mytton]

NOBODY to this day can explain the White Shirt Man we see moving UP-The-Steps on the NIX Film.

You're right, "NOBODY to this day can explain the White Shirt Man we see moving UP-The-Steps on the NIX Film" because the man running up the step was wearing a light BROWN cardigan!



JohnM

[Steve Barber]

You're right, "NOBODY to this day can explain the White Shirt Man we see moving UP-The-Steps on the NIX Film" because the man running up the step was wearing a light BROWN cardigan!



JohnM

      Agreed, John.

     In this photo is the man (who was photographed by Mary Ann Moorman Krahmer, and Marie Muchmore, who was filming the the motorcade) standing on the stairs next to Emmett Hudson, during the assassination.  This is the same man whom, following the fatal shot, turns and runs up the stairs, as captured in the Orville Nix film.
Royell Storing is claiming that the man who runs up the stairs in the Nix film is wearing a "white shirt".  Nothing could be further from the truth, and the fact is, the man in the Nix film running up the stairs is the same man who appears in the Moorman Krahmer photo, Muchmore and Nix films.  Proof? The attached is a still from the Darnell film, showing the black man and his wife. Please note the white reflection of the sun on shoulder and upper arm of the man's cadigan.  This gives the appearance that the section of the cardigan is "white" when in reality, it's just the noon day sun reflecting on the man's cardigan. 

[Jim Hawthorn]

Dr. McCLELLAND - ... I noted that the right posterior portion of the skull had been extremely blasted. It had been shattered,...

Great, he confirmed that it was posterior - behind the ears. That settles it.

Of course other doctors confirmed that the big hole was in the back of the head. Some mention that the head was turned, to get a better look.

Others had a good look at the hole in the back of the head before during and after that, and even felt it (here we go again):

SSA Clint Hill: The right rear portion of his head was missing...There was so much blood you could not tell if there had been any other wound or not, except for the one large gaping wound in the right rear portion of the head.

FBI SA James Sibert: it was a good size, in the back part of the head there. ...
...but my recollection of the way the head looked is nothing that would appear as this photograph shows. This photograph is too neat. Right back here is where you would have had that massive wound, right in here, and you see that's neat. My thought was that that was probably taken after reconstruction was done... there was a big cavity there.


Nurse Diana Bowron: ). I saw that there was a massive amount of blood on the back seat and in order to find the cause I lifted his head and my fingers went into a large wound in the back of his head; I turned his head and seeing the size of the wound realized that I could not stop the bleeding. I turned his head back and saw an entry wound in the front of the throat, I could feel no pulse at the jugular and having seen the extent of the injury to the back of the head I assumed that he was dead.

There was a gaping wound in the back of his head. It was gone. Gone. There was nothing there. Just a big gaping hole. There might have been little clumps of scalp, but most of the bone over the hole, there was no bone there. There was no damage to the front of his face, only wound in the back of his head and the entry wound in his throat. The wound was so large I could almost put my whole fist into it....Dr Perry turned the President's head slightly to the President's anatomical left so that she could see a right posterior head wound, which she described as occipital

RICHARD BROOKS DULANEY, MD: Dulaney told journalist Ben Bradlee, Jr., "...Somebody lifted up his head and showed me the back of his head. We couldn't see much until they picked up his head. I was standing beside him. The wound was on the back of his head. On the back side" They lifted up the head and "the whole back-side was gone." (Groden R., Livingston, H., High Treason. 1989 New York, Berkley Books, p.460.)

FOUAD BASHOUR, MD: an associate professor of medicine, cardiology, at Parkland at the time of the assassination. Groden and Livingstone reported, "He was most insistent that the official picture was not representative of the wounds, and he continually laid his hand both on the back of Livingstone's head and his own to show where the large hole was. 'Why do they cover it up?' he repeated numerous times. 'This is not the way it was!' he kept repeating, shaking his head no." (Groden & Livingston, H., High Treason. 1989 New York, Berkley Books, p.45)

Nurse Doris Nelson: There wasn’t even hair back there. It was blown away. All that area was blown out(when shown the rear of head autopsy photo)

Nurse Pat Hutton: A doctor asked me to place a pressure dressing on the head wound. This was of no use, however, because of the massive opening on the back of the head.

Nurse Margaret Hinchcliff: the President had a gaping wound in the back of his head and an entrance wound in his throat.

Aubrey Rike(Oneal Funeral Home, Dallas):You could feel the sharp edges of the bone at the edge of the hole in the back of the head

Bethesda photographer Floyd Riebe: a big gaping hole in the back of the head


Mortician Thomas Robinson: about the size of a small orange…Circular…ragged… directly behind the back of his head…they brought a piece of heavy duty rubber, again to fill this area in the back of the head….

More here:
http://www.assassinationweb.com/ag6.htm

[Royell Storing]

You're right, "NOBODY to this day can explain the White Shirt Man we see moving UP-The-Steps on the NIX Film" because the man running up the step was wearing a light BROWN cardigan!



JohnM

     Unless you have monitor and/or vision issues, denying the obvious must be the only LN avenue at your disposal. Not only is that guy moving Up The Steps wearing a White Shirt, it is also Short Sleeved. This White Shirt Man also has a body type/figure that does Not fit the LN accepted 60 yr old narrative. The Lee Bowers WC Testimony included his detailing seeing a White Shirt Man "in line" with The Triple Underpass. This White Shirt Man on the NIX FILM now corroborates that Lee Bowers WC Testimony. There is currently ongoing NIX Film research regarding a JFK skull fragment being visibly thrown in the Newman's direction. (FRONTAL Shot). This fragment is only visible on very select copies of the NIX Film. Of course, the ORIGINAL NIX FILM has been missing for decades. The White Shirt Man and possibly this JFK Skull Fragment make it obvious why.   

[Martin Weidmann]

Eyewitness testimony can be highly unreliable, even from trained professionals in stressful situations. Therefore, the best evidence in this case is undoubtedly the autopsy photos authenticated by the HSCA photographic experts, thus unequivocally proving beyond all reasonable doubt that the photo depicting no significant large wound in the rear of the President's head is genuine. Case closed.

Eyewitness testimony can be highly unreliable, even from trained professionals in stressful situations.

Except of course when they are asked to indentify a man in a line up who most of them had only seen briefly in a highly chaotic situation. Then eyewitness testimony suddenly becomes highly reliable, right?

Therefore, the best evidence in this case is undoubtedly the autopsy photos authenticated by the HSCA photographic experts, thus unequivocally proving beyond all reasonable doubt that the photo depicting no significant large wound in the rear of the President's head is genuine. Case closed.

Strange... I suddenly get the feeling I'm reading one of John Mytton's post....

[Jim Hawthorn]

Eyewitness testimony can be highly unreliable, even from trained professionals in stressful situations. Therefore, the best evidence in this case is undoubtedly the autopsy photos authenticated by the HSCA photographic experts, thus unequivocally proving beyond all reasonable doubt that the photo depicting no significant large wound in the rear of the President's head is genuine. Case closed.

The eyewitness testimonies give us a very clear description of the wounds (the embalmer for one, wasn't in a stressful situation). The autopsy photos were so well faked that they even fooled the HSCA photography experts. Dozens of photos were taken, so where are they? Obviously, that level of complex fakery couldn't be applied to a multitude of frames.