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Re: Was Hickey's AR15 in burst mode?
« Reply #224 on: February 07, 2024, 03:34:38 AM »
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Oswald's shot-1 ricocheted offa the overhead signal arm at say pseudo-Z105.
I suspect that the noise would be moreso out front of the Carcano, ie moreso on the S side of Elm.
I suspect that the noise would be heard moreso by gawkers on the S side, facing the Carcano.
Rather than the gawkers on the N side, with Carcano above & behind.
Likewise Oswald's shot-2 at Z218.

     A shooter would have to be STANDING UP in order to hit that light signal with a shot. Then, the shooter would need to sit down while also working the bolt action rifle to fire shots #2 and #3. It's buying into  BS: such as this that also led to the SBT, which SCIENCE has now DQ'd.

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Re: Was Hickey's AR15 in burst mode?
« Reply #224 on: February 07, 2024, 03:34:38 AM »


Offline Marjan Rynkiewicz

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Re: Was Hickey's AR15 in burst mode?
« Reply #225 on: February 08, 2024, 04:45:32 AM »
     A shooter would have to be STANDING UP in order to hit that light signal with a shot. Then, the shooter would need to sit down while also working the bolt action rifle to fire shots #2 and #3. It's buying into  BS: such as this that also led to the SBT, which SCIENCE has now DQ'd.
Here are the timings for Oswald's shot-1 & shot-2 & for a faux shot-3.
87 ft is the horizontal dist scaled by me, 106 ft is the hypotenuse dist allowing for vertical dist estimated by me.

Oswald Shot ----------- hit at ------ fired at  ------ sound hit JFK at – Carcano = 2170 ft per sec.
1 --- 87 ft = 106 ft ----- Z113 ------ Z112.1 ---------- Z113.9 ----- camera runs at 18.3 frames per sec.
2 --- 184 ft = 197 ft---- Z218 ------- Z216.3 --------- Z219.6
3 --- 255 ft = 266 ft ---- Z313 -------- Z310.8 --------- Z315.2 -------- Oswald did not have a shot-3.
The time tween shot-1 & shot-2 is 104.2 frames, which is 5.7 sec. Holland reckoned that shot-1 was at Z106, which is an extra 7 frames, or 0.4 sec, which makes it 6.1 sec.
The time tween shot-2 & faux shot-3 is 94.5 frames, which is 5.2 sec.
Adding to 10.9 sec.

Here are the timings for Hickey's auto burst, based on there being 6 shots.
Hickey Shot ------------- hit at ------ fired at  ------ sound hit JFK at -------
6 ---- 26 ft---------------- Z313 -------- Z312.8 ---------- Z313.2 --- hit JFK in head & cracked windshield.
5 ---- AR15 = 3250 ft per sec------------ Z310.0 ---------- hit chrome trim on windshield.
4 ---- sound = 1100 ft per sec ----------- Z307.25 -------- went over the windshield, hit Elm St.
3 ---- probly 400 rpm= 6.67 rps --------- Z304.5 ---------- went over the windshield, hit Elm St.
2 ------------------------------------------- Z301.8 ----------- went over the windshield, hit Elm St.
1 ------------------------------------------- Z299.0 ---- probly hit Main St pavement & then kerb near Tague.
My calculation of Oswald's angles based on above is .....
shot-1 at Z113 is -34.8 deg. If at Holland's Z106 it is still -34.6 deg koz either way it is at the signals.
shot-2 at Z218 is -21.0 deg.
pseudo Oswald shot-3 at Z312 is -16.6 deg.
Hickey's actual shot at Z312 was nearnuff parallel to Elm St, ie -3.2 deg say.
« Last Edit: February 08, 2024, 04:47:49 AM by Marjan Rynkiewicz »

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Re: Was Hickey's AR15 in burst mode?
« Reply #226 on: February 08, 2024, 04:46:54 PM »
My calculation of Oswald's angles based on above is .....
shot-1 at Z113 is -34.8 deg. If at Holland's Z106 it is still -34.6 deg koz either way it is at the signals.
shot-2 at Z218 is -21.0 deg.
pseudo Oswald shot-3 at Z312 is -16.6 deg.
Hickey's actual shot at Z312 was nearnuff parallel to Elm St, ie -3.2 deg say.

    Why don't we just cut to the chase and put the protractor away? Do you believe that: (1) Oswald was standing up when firing Shot #1, (2) Sat down, (3) reacquired the target, (4) worked the bolt action rifle, (5) Fired Shot #2, (6) worked the bolt action rifle, (7) Fired Shot #3 ALL in roughly 8 Total Seconds?

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Re: Was Hickey's AR15 in burst mode?
« Reply #226 on: February 08, 2024, 04:46:54 PM »


Offline Marjan Rynkiewicz

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Re: Was Hickey's AR15 in burst mode?
« Reply #227 on: February 08, 2024, 09:38:34 PM »
    Why don't we just cut to the chase and put the protractor away? Do you believe that: (1) Oswald was standing up when firing Shot #1, (2) Sat down, (3) reacquired the target, (4) worked the bolt action rifle, (5) Fired Shot #2, (6) worked the bolt action rifle, (7) Fired Shot #3 ALL in roughly 8 Total Seconds?
I doubt that Oswald used a support for his shot-1 at say pseudo Z103 to Z108, say Z105.
He would have been swinging the Carcano left to right while trying to get an accurate bead on the middle of jfk's back.
Thats why he hit the signal arm, koz he woz swinging, & shot a bit later than planned, & the signal & arm were never on his mind.
Then he probly used a support for his long range shot-2 at Z218, after jfk had emerged from the trees.
Z105 to Z218 is 113 Z frames, over 6 seconds.
Oswald would have seen that jfk wasnt hit by his shot-1, so Oswald needed a shot-2.
Then Oswald might have seen that his shot-2 had hit jfk, in any case Oswald stood up & back & he did not fire his last bullet.
Oswald would have seen Hickey shoot jfk in the head at Z313.

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Re: Was Hickey's AR15 in burst mode?
« Reply #227 on: February 08, 2024, 09:38:34 PM »