From frame Z224 to Z225 Kennedy is lowering his right hand towards his chest which is starting to clench into a fist. The shadow on the back of his right hand in Z224 helps to indicate the orientation as his open hand begins to become a fist.
You people are incredible. Dealing with your denials of readily observable facts is literally like dealing with members of a cult or with Flat Earth Society members.
You and David Von Pein simply ignored my points about JFK's pre-207 reaction, about the fact that JFK's upward hand movement is jerky--that it goes up and then down and then up again--and is not one smooth upward motion, about the Z207-223 movement of JFK's left arm that we see still in progress in Z224, and about Jackie's pre-Z224 reaction (which, as the HSCA PEP noted, begins
before Z207).
You also ignored the fact that we now know that even the WC's experts recognized that there is "some jerkiness" in JFK's movements in Z199-205, and that his right elbow "appears to be raised to an artificially high position" in Z204-205 ("Memorandum for the Record: Conference of April 14, 1964, to Determine Which Frames in the Zapruder Movies Show the Impact of the First and Second Bullets," written by WC attorney Melvin Eisenberg, 4/22/64, p. 1).
You guys just brushed aside all these inconvenient facts and merely repeated your arguments.
Then between Z225 to Z226 Kennedy swiftly raises his cupping right hand while attaining the resulting Thorburn position, towards his throat.
Holy cow! The Thorburn position?! Did you really just repeat the Thorburn-position argument?! This is more embarrassing proof that you've never dared or bothered to read any serious research that challenges the lone-gunman theory.
The Thorburn-position nonsense is part of the quackery that John Lattimer fed to gullible WC apologists back in the 1970s. It was destroyed soon after Lattimer published it. Among other problems, Lattimer assumed that the back wound was as high as C6 (when in fact it was no higher than T1).
Even worse, Lattimer ignored the fact that Dr. Thorburn's patient, the one that Lattimer cited as an alleged example, was not even brought to him until
four days after the injury. Dr. Thorburn never once claimed that this was an immediate reaction to a spinal injury.
Equally bad, Lattimer ignored the fact that Dr. Thorburn specified that his patient suffered a "complete transverse destruction of the spinal cord," but JFK suffered no such spinal injury.
Indeed, the SBT posits that the magic bullet somehow
missed hitting the spinal cord. You see, if the bullet had even just nicked the spinal cord, it would have begun to pitch and yaw and thus could not have created a small, neat "exit" wound in the throat. This is why some WC apologists have produced bogus graphics with trajectory overlays that purport to show how the bullet supposedly could have avoided hitting the spine. (Dr. Mantik has proved with a CT scan overlay that the bullet could not have reached the throat without smashing through the spine.)
Worst of all, in Dr. Thorburn's own diagram of the Thorburn position, i.e., the diagram that Lattimer cited,
the man's forearms are not bent inward; they are not on/near his chest and are nowhere near his throat--rather the man's arms are flexed outward with the elbows extended away from each side of the body and with the hands extended upward from each elbow and with the forearms bent upward.
This bears no resemblance to the position of JFK's hands and arms in Z224-232. Have you ever even seen Thorburn's own diagram of the position?
You guys like to quote Pat Speer. Well, even Pat Speer admits that the Thorburn-position argument is absurd. I quote from Speer's online book:
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But Lattimer and Posner compounded
Life's silliness by desperately trying to explain away what would have to be seen as an incredibly rapid reaction by Kennedy to the bullet striking him at frame 224. Yep, in a moment of profound weakness, they offered up that the bullet nicked Kennedy's spine, and caused him to assume “Thorburn’s Position,” which they claimed was an immediate locking of the arms. . . .
Thus, in 1993, the very next year, the ever-inventive Posner offered the single-assassin faithful the solution they'd been looking for, telling them on page 328 that a spinal injury to Kennedy's sixth cervical vertebra, as purported by Lattimer, would cause an "instantaneous reaction." On the next page he spelled out just how "instantaneous." He wrote: "Kennedy's Thorburn response, from spinal damage, at frames 226-227, came between one tenth to two tenths of a second after the bullet hit him, which translates to 1.8 to 3.66 Zapruder frames."
By pretending that Kennedy's reaction could have started as late as frame 227, and that it could have taken as little as one-tenth of a second, Posner was, not surprisingly, covering his pet assassination theory. If people said Kennedy first showed signs of being hit by 227, he could say the reaction took two-tenths of a second. If they said he first showed signs by 226 he could say it took one tenth of a second.
Posner failed to tell his readers that both the Warren Commission and HSCA concluded that Kennedy was clearly reacting to something before frame 226, and that both sides of the 1992 mock trial he cited throughout his book agreed that the reaction time would be at least two tenths of a second, and that the one tenth of a second reaction time he presented for his readers' consideration was something he just made up.
What we need to note here is that Lattimer and his devotee Posner, by pushing the "Thorburn theory," were simultaneously rejecting the conclusions of both the Warren Commission and HSCA that Kennedy was hit when he came out from behind the sign, and were instead pushing that Kennedy was not responding to a shot, but only waving, in frames 224 and 225 of the Zapruder film. And that's just plain silly.
Actually, Posner and the single-assassin community's propping up of Lattimer and his "Thorburn theory" to help sell the single-bullet theory is worse than their simply being silly. Lattimer's "Thorburn theory," holding that Kennedy's arms immediately locked into place after being hit, was, and is, a hoax. A careful viewing of the Zapruder film shows that although Kennedy’s elbows remain slightly bent after frame 224 for the phenomenal length of five seconds, his arms themselves are far from locked and drop almost immediately. Even more damaging, as discovered by Millicent Cranor and reported by Wallace Milam, the position described by Thorburn in the 1800's was not an immediate locking of the arms, but a position assumed over a couple of days as the afflicted patient sunk into paralysis and death. (
https://www.patspeer.com/chapter12thesingle-bulletfact)
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Read and educate yourself about the ludicrous Thorburn-position argument:
https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/john-lattimer-never-quit-the-thorburn-businesshttp://www.assassinationweb.com/milam-thor.htmAs the clip progresses, we see Kennedy's elbows shoot up and it's only then a concerned Jackie who while quickly glancing at the reacting Connally, places her hand on her husbands left elbow which proves that Kennedy was not hit earlier and thereafter Jackie realizes that in the previous couple of seconds something very drastic has just happened to the two men in the Limo.
With the benefit of these toggled frames we get to analyze with great precision these repeated movements. And I know that if Connally way back when he examined individual frames had this added degree of accuracy he would would heartily agree with this inescapable conclusion! JohnM
This is silly self-delusion and an amazing denial of visible reality. I mean, this is just crazy. As the HSCA PEP noted, by Z202-204 Jackie has made a sudden turn to her right to look at JFK, and she is still looking intently at him when she reemerges from behind the road sign in Z222. How can you deny these facts with a straight face?
At the very latest, Jackie's rightward head turn is obvious in Z206, and, again, she is still staring at JFK in Z222, obviously because she has already realized that something is wrong with JFK. I know you can see this. Anyone can. But you won't admit it because your theory says that JFK was not hit before Z224.
You guys also have to dance around the movement of JFK's
left arm. Pre-Z207, his left arm is motionless and resting comfortably at his side, but barely 1 second later, in Z224, his left arm is now bent inward and his left hand is coming up toward his throat. I know you can see this. Anyone can. But you won't admit it because your theory says JFK was not hit before Z224, and there's no way he could have reacted with his left arm that quickly to a Z224 hit--in less than 56 thousandths of a second.
Finally, I notice that you are still ignoring the fact that JFK is suddenly jolted sharply forward starting in Z226. This is another fatal problem for the SBT because Connally's right shoulder is not slammed downward until Z238, not to mention that JFK begins to react to an earlier wounding starting no later than Z200 when he starts to whip his head to the left and suddenly freezes his waving motion and then his hand movements become irregular.
