The Shifting Single-Bullet Theory--It Always "Works" No Matter What

[Jerry Organ]

A bit earlier than z285.  SA Greer said he turned around immediately after the second shot and he is already turned around at z285. 

Greer appears to turn his head beginning in the Z240s. Sorry that doesn't do much for your trying to tie him into your s--t-for-brains second shot at Z271-72.

JBC starts sailing forward at z271-272 to z278 or so, just before Nellie grabs him and pulls him down.

Connally doesn't "sail forward" because your Pet Theory has him struck in the back. He falls backwards towards his wife. Nellie doesn't "grab" the Governor and pull him towards her. LOL.

SA George Hickey said that the hair on the right side of JFK's head flew up at the moment of the second shot. We can see that occurring at z273-276.  No one else's hair moves at that time.

Hickey (on right edge of photo) is looking backwards and his head is lower than the standing agents, one second before Mason says Hickey saw Kennedy's hair fly up.

Kennedy's hair doesn't fly up. A small lock falls downward and briefly flutters because Kennedy's head is tilted downward. Where that lock is can't be seen by Hickey. I have "Hickey" standing but the Altgens Photo shows he wasn't as high as that.

Also there appears to be movement of the left sun visor between z271 and z272.

That visor moves all through the film, because it's a little loose and the wind is moving it. Not because a bullet fragment struck it. Holy cow.

[Andrew Mason]

Greer appears to turn his head beginning in the Z240s. Sorry that doesn't do much for your trying to tie him into your s--t-for-brains second shot at Z271-72.

Tell us how you can see Greer's head turn from z240.  We can see his chest but not his head.  And his chest does not turn.

Besides, Greer said that when he turned he saw JBC falling onto his wife.  That does not occur until about z280:

So you are not only imagining something we cannot see, you are rejecting Greer's statements about what he saw when he turned without any reason to do so.  Besides, we can see that he is turned at z286.  How long do you think he stayed turned around while driving the car?

Connally doesn't "sail forward" because your Pet Theory has him struck in the back. He falls backwards towards his wife. Nellie doesn't "grab" the Governor and pull him towards her. LOL.

Do you see anything happen at z271-272 that prompts what you say is a backward fall?  Like a muscle movement or something in his body indicating that he is deciding to fall back?

Kennedy's hair doesn't fly up. A small lock falls downward and briefly flutters because Kennedy's head is tilted downward. Where that lock is can't be seen by Hickey. I have "Hickey" standing but the Altgens Photo shows he wasn't as high as that.

His hair does not lift?  You have to stop drinking before 5 pm Jerry:

That visor moves all through the film, because it's a little loose and the wind is moving it. Not because a bullet fragment struck it. Holy cow.

The film analysis alone does not prove that the second shot occurred around there. The rest of the evidence does that, particularly the consistent evidence that the first shot struck JFK and was after z186 and before z202 and the shot pattern evidence of the 1..........2.....3 spacing.  The film analysis just allows us to pinpoint the frames when it occurred.

[Jack Nessan]

Tell us how you can see Greer's head turn from z240.  We can see his chest but not his head.  And his chest does not turn.

Besides, Greer said that when he turned he saw JBC falling onto his wife.  That does not occur until about z280:

So you are not only imagining something we cannot see, you are rejecting Greer's statements about what he saw when he turned without any reason to do so.  Besides, we can see that he is turned at z286.  How long do you think he stayed turned around while driving the car?
Do you see anything happen at z271-272 that prompts what you say is a backward fall?  Like a muscle movement or something in his body indicating that he is deciding to fall back?

His hair does not lift?  You have to stop drinking before 5 pm Jerry:


The film analysis alone does not prove that the second shot occurred around there. The rest of the evidence does that, particularly the consistent evidence that the first shot struck JFK and was after z186 and before z202 and the shot pattern evidence of the 1..........2.....3 spacing.  The film analysis just allows us to pinpoint the frames when it occurred.

 At Z238 Greers head is turned. Greer is also two-shot witness.
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SA Hickey 11/22

“I heard what appeared to be two shots and it seemed as if the right side of his head was hit and his hair flew forward.”

The impact of the bullet is what caused his head to fly forward.

Only in cartoons does the hair move because a bullet passes by.
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The first shot struck JFK after z207 at the earliest as has been repeatedly explained by the witnesses standing on the street. There is no such thing as shot pattern evidence or are all the various shot patterns evidence?

[Jerry Organ]

Tell us how you can see Greer's head turn from z240.

When the GIF starts, there are facial features above the collar that then disappear as the animation progresses. Within the same second, Kellerman quickly turns his head from looking forward.

BTW, the GIF shows the driver's-side sun visor rocking in the wind, well before you contend it was moved by a fragment during your clown-parade second-shot at Z271/272.

We can see his chest but not his head.  And his chest does not turn.

If you think that's some defense attorney tactic to sow doubt, I see why you don't make headlines as a lawyer. For most people, it's possible to turn one's head a certain amount without turning the chest.

Besides, Greer said that when he turned he saw JBC falling onto his wife. 

The Altgens Photo shows Greer's head in profile. Enough to see Connally.

That does not occur until about z280:

As shown before, the Governor is falling back towards Nellie in the Z270s. Even if Connally "sailed forward", it doesn't mean he was struck by a bullet.

So you are not only imagining something we cannot see, you are rejecting Greer's statements about what he saw when he turned without any reason to do so.  Besides, we can see that he is turned at z286.  How long do you think he stayed turned around while driving the car?

Why can't Greer take his eyes off the road for a few seconds? Is there a sharp turn in the road, or vehicles in front of him? The car is gradually losing speed.

Do you see anything happen at z271-272 that prompts what you say is a backward fall?  Like a muscle movement or something in his body indicating that he is deciding to fall back?

Connally's been bend over in pain since the late-Z220s, reacting to having received a bullet through the torso.

His hair does not lift?  You have to stop drinking before 5 pm Jerry:

I used the term fluttered, for the little one-frame bounce. It's more accurate than you assigning "flew up" to it. Besides, Hickey can't see to that part of Kennedy's head. And as pointed out, Greer is referring to the head shot when he says "the right side of his head was hit and his hair flew forward".

The film analysis alone does not prove that the second shot occurred around there. The rest of the evidence does that, particularly the consistent evidence that the first shot struck JFK and was after z186 and before z202 and the shot pattern evidence of the 1..........2.....3 spacing.  The film analysis just allows us to pinpoint the frames when it occurred.

Phil Willis said the first shot caused Mrs. Kennedy to turn her head from his side of the street to the opposite side, and that it occurred between Willis04 (ca.Z133?) and Willis 05 (Z202). She does this in the Z170s. During a one-second span beginning in the Z160s, Jackie and the Connallys turned their heads rightward.

As for shot-spanning (just how did people accurately gauge that without foreknowledge and the anticipation of a murder?), you think an equal number who didn't describe the shot-spanning that way are wrong. See Dave Reitzes' tabulation. ( Link ) "My preliminary finding is that 58 witnesses reported that the second two shots were timed more closely together, 39 reported that the shots were timed about evenly, and 15 reported that the first two shots were timed more closely together. "

[Andrew Mason]

When the GIF starts, there are facial features above the collar that then disappear as the animation progresses. Within the same second, Kellerman quickly turns his head from looking forward.

That is consistent with Greer turning to his right to speak to Kellerman.  That does not mean he was turned to the rear.  Greer was specific on the number of turns to the rear.  He made two such turns: 1. when he turned immediately after and "almost simultaneous with" the second shot and saw JBC falling back onto his wife.  2. he turned forward and then turned rearward again when the third and final shot occurred.

BTW, the GIF shows the driver's-side sun visor rocking in the wind, well before you contend it was moved by a fragment during your clown-parade second-shot at Z271/272.

I will check again but, as I said, it is just another small piece of consistent evidence. It means nothing, however, unless a fragment struck the visor.  While the visor does appear to have some marks that are consistent with fragment damage, I don't have any confirmation of that. So you may be right - just a coincidence.

If you think that's some defense attorney tactic to sow doubt, I see why you don't make headlines as a lawyer. For most people, it's possible to turn one's head a certain amount without turning the chest.

It is not about creating doubt.  It is about finding evidence to support what you say occurred.  It isn't there.

The Altgens Photo shows Greer's head in profile. Enough to see Connally.

Or to show that he is talking to Kellerman.  I notice that JBC is not falling back at that point so it does not fit what Greer said he saw when he turned to look back after the second shot.

As shown before, the Governor is falling back towards Nellie in the Z270s. Even if Connally "sailed forward", it doesn't mean he was struck by a bullet.

The motion is unusual in that it does not appear to be preceded by a change in any part of his body.

Connally's been bend over in pain since the late-Z220s, reacting to having received a bullet through the torso.

Except that he said he felt no pain until he tried getting up at Parkland.

I used the term fluttered, for the little one-frame bounce. It's more accurate than you assigning "flew up" to it. Besides, Hickey can't see to that part of Kennedy's head. And as pointed out, Greer is referring to the head shot when he says "the right side of his head was hit and his hair flew forward".

Phil Willis said the first shot caused Mrs. Kennedy to turn her head from his side of the street to the opposite side, and that it occurred between Willis04 (ca.Z133?) and Willis 05 (Z202). She does this in the Z170s. During a one-second span beginning in the Z160s, Jackie and the Connallys turned their heads rightward.

As for shot-spanning (just how did people accurately gauge that without foreknowledge and the anticipation of a murder?), you think an equal number who didn't describe the shot-spanning that way are wrong. See Dave Reitzes' tabulation. ( Link ) "My preliminary finding is that 58 witnesses reported that the second two shots were timed more closely together, 39 reported that the shots were timed about evenly, and 15 reported that the first two shots were timed more closely together. "

As I have pointed out, the 39 witnesses did not say that they were evenly spaced.  I will look at the 15 who you say had the last two more closely together.

[Andrew Mason]

As for shot-spanning (just how did people accurately gauge that without foreknowledge and the anticipation of a murder?), you think an equal number who didn't describe the shot-spanning that way are wrong. See Dave Reitzes' tabulation. ( Link ) "My preliminary finding is that 58 witnesses reported that the second two shots were timed more closely together, 39 reported that the shots were timed about evenly, and 15 reported that the first two shots were timed more closely together. "

I said I would review Reitzes' tabulation and here is my tally:
Witnesses who actually stated that they recalled a 1...2.....3 relative spacing (shorter pause between 1 and 2 than 2-3):
Cecil Ault
Nellie Connally
Kenneth O'Donnell
Gayle Newman
Steven Wilson

Witnesses listed by Reitzes who are alleged to have given a statement of a 1...2......3 pattern but it is not recorded in a statement they acknowledged or they did not make statements about shot spacing until 1993 or later:
Officer James Courson
JM Head
Bo Mabra
Hugh Sidey

Except for JM Head who, apparently gave a statement to someone at the Houston Post on the day of the assassination, none of these witnesses gave statements about the shot spacing until decades later and the source statements referred to by Larry Sneed (Courson, Mabra) and CNN are not provided.  Head's complete statement is not provided (I don't have access to the 22Nov63 edition of the Houston Post) but he does not actually say the first two were closer together: just two shots then a hesitation and a third shot.  So it is, at best, ambiguous.

Reitzes is simply wrong in attributing the 1...2......3 spacing to these witnesses:

-Charles Bronson (two shots and a slight pause before third shot. He does not mention relative spacing.  Statement could be: two distinct shots -ie. separated by a pause - and then a slight pause before third.)

-Governor Connally: never commented on the relative spacing. He says the time between 1 and 2 was a "very, very brief span of time" (4H133) and the time span between 1 and 3 was a "very brief span of time" He estimated the total time to be 10-12 seconds "extremely rapid" "a very short period of time".  But he does say there was sufficient time between 1 and 2 for him to recognize the rifle sound, conclude that an assassination was unfolding and turn completely around to check on the President.

-SA Thomas Johns.  Johns does not mention relative spacing but does note that he jumped out of the car after hearing the first two shots.  He has not jumped out at the time of Altgens #6 (z255).

-Dave Powers:  He is quoted by a ghost writer in 1972 saying that he "heard shots, two close together and then a third one".  He does not say the first two were closer.  But even if that was what he meant, it is inconsistent with what he said he saw at the time: JFK moving left after the first shot exposing JBC to his view and then JBC disappearing after the second shot.  JBC is well to JFK's right until z270s before he falls back on his wife and out of Powers' view.

-Garland Slack:  Slack does not mention relative spacing.  Besides in his first statement on November 22/63 he described hearing only two shots.

-Senator Yarborough:  Yarborough gave a detailed affidavit recalling the 1.........2....3 pattern.  Yarborough stated to the WC (7 H 439) “After what I took to be about three seconds, another shot boomed out, and after what I took to be one-half the time between the first and second shots (calculated now, this would have put the third shot about one and one-half seconds after the second shot--by my estimate--to me there seemed to be a long time between the first and second shots, a much shorter time between the second and third shots--these were my impressions that day), a third shot was fired. After the third shot was fired, but only after the third shot was fired, the cavalcade speeded up, gained speed rapidly, and roared away to the Parkland Hospital.”

So from Reitzes list I get 5 confirmed, 4 ambiguous/maybe and 6 wrong.  He also missed one that I found:  William Newman.  However, he is a problem as well, since he initially insisted that he heard only two shots in total.